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                    "It's rude to show AI output to people | Alex Martsinovich (https://fonts.cdnfonts.com/css/jetbrains-mono-2) (/css/index.css)  Alex Martsinovich Software Engineer   (/) Home  (/posts) Posts   (https://github.com/martosaur) Github  (https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliaksandr-martsinovich/) LinkedIn      It's rude to show AI output to people Imagine you're a scrambler. Imagine that you encounter a signal. It is structured, and dense with\ninformation. It meets all the criteria of an intelligent transmission. Evolution\nand experience offer a variety of paths to follow, branch-points in the\nflowcharts that handle such input. Sometimes these signals come from\nconspecifics who have useful information to share, whose lives you'll defend\naccording to the rules of kin selection. Sometimes they come from competitors or\npredators or other inimical entities that must be avoided or destroyed; in those\ncases, the information may prove of significant tactical value. Some signals may\neven arise from entities which, while not kin, can still serve as allies or\nsymbionts in mutually beneficial pursuits. You can derive appropriate responses\nfor any of these eventualities, and many others. You decode the signals, and stumble: I had a great time. I really enjoyed him. Even if he cost twice as much as any\nother hooker in the dome\u2014  To fully appreciate Kesey's Quartet\u2014  They hate us for our freedom\u2014  Pay attention, now\u2014  Understand.  There are no meaningful translations for these terms. They are needlessly\nrecursive. They contain no usable intelligence, yet they are structured\nintelligently; there is no chance they could have arisen by chance. The only explanation is that something has coded nonsense in a way that poses as\na useful message; only after wasting time and effort does the deception becomes\napparent. The signal functions to consume the resources of a recipient for zero\npayoff and reduced fitness. The signal is a virus. Viruses do not arise from kin, symbionts, or other allies. The signal is an attack. \u2013 Peter Watts, \"Blindsight\"   In the sci-fi novel Blindsight by Peter Watts, humanity encounters scramblers \u2013\nan alien species that is intelligent, but lacks consciousness. Scramblers do not\nattempt to contact humans and wage a unilateral total war against us. Why?\nBecause we talk too much. Our little planet just can't stop chatting about\nnonsense, and scramblers know only one use for information: to perceive it.\nThey can't help but listen to all our yapping that only wastes their precious\nbrain cycles and reduces their chances of survival. No peaceful species would do this;\nthis is clearly an act of war. When I first read Blindsight 10 years ago, I didn't understand how scramblers felt\nabout human slop. But now I do. I feel it every time I read AI text outside of\nthe privacy of my own chatroom.  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AI etiquette \u256d\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u256e\n\u2502 I asked ChatGPT and     \u2502\n\u2502 here's what it told me: \u2502\n\u2502 ...                     \u2502\n\u2570\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u256f\n                                    \u256d\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u256e\n                                    \u2502 blocked \u2502\n                                    \u2570\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u2500\u256f  Time to learn AI manners   I think that realistically, our main weapon in this war is AI etiquette. 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