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\n\n5\n00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:05,869\nit properly so you should introduce\nyourself but yeah your microphone's\n\n6\n00:00:05,869 --> 00:00:05,879\nyourself but yeah your microphone's\n \n\n7\n00:00:05,879 --> 00:00:08,310\nyourself but yeah your microphone's\nright here y press hard for the next\n\n8\n00:00:08,310 --> 00:00:08,320\nright here y press hard for the next\n \n\n9\n00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,030\nright here y press hard for the next\nslide backwards and a pointer if you\n\n10\n00:00:10,030 --> 00:00:10,040\nslide backwards and a pointer if you\n \n\n11\n00:00:10,040 --> 00:00:12,190\nslide backwards and a pointer if you\nneed it great thanks thank you so much\n\n12\n00:00:12,190 --> 00:00:12,200\nneed it great thanks thank you so much\n \n\n13\n00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,269\nneed it great thanks thank you so much\nhi everyone um I'm Peter I'm going to\n\n14\n00:00:16,269 --> 00:00:16,279\nhi everyone um I'm Peter I'm going to\n \n\n15\n00:00:16,279 --> 00:00:18,109\nhi everyone um I'm Peter I'm going to\nkind of take things in a bit more of a\n\n16\n00:00:18,109 --> 00:00:18,119\nkind of take things in a bit more of a\n \n\n17\n00:00:18,119 --> 00:00:20,390\nkind of take things in a bit more of a\nphilosophical kind of Direction um you\n\n18\n00:00:20,390 --> 00:00:20,400\nphilosophical kind of Direction um you\n \n\n19\n00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,950\nphilosophical kind of Direction um you\nknow I work for a research lab these\n\n20\n00:00:21,950 --> 00:00:21,960\nknow I work for a research lab these\n \n\n21\n00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,189\nknow I work for a research lab these\ndays so that's kind of my uh tendency um\n\n22\n00:00:25,189 --> 00:00:25,199\ndays so that's kind of my uh tendency um\n \n\n23\n00:00:25,199 --> 00:00:27,950\ndays so that's kind of my uh tendency um\nthe lab is called Inc and switch uh we\n\n24\n00:00:27,950 --> 00:00:27,960\nthe lab is called Inc and switch uh we\n \n\n25\n00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,070\nthe lab is called Inc and switch uh we\nare interested in carrying on kind of\n\n26\n00:00:31,070 --> 00:00:31,080\nare interested in carrying on kind of\n \n\n27\n00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,670\nare interested in carrying on kind of\nthe work of like engelbart and lick lier\n\n28\n00:00:33,670 --> 00:00:33,680\nthe work of like engelbart and lick lier\n \n\n29\n00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,630\nthe work of like engelbart and lick lier\nand Alan Kay and these people we\n\n30\n00:00:35,630 --> 00:00:35,640\nand Alan Kay and these people we\n \n\n31\n00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,069\nand Alan Kay and these people we\ninterested in how computers can augment\n\n32\n00:00:38,069 --> 00:00:38,079\ninterested in how computers can augment\n \n\n33\n00:00:38,079 --> 00:00:38,869\ninterested in how computers can augment\nhuman\n\n34\n00:00:38,869 --> 00:00:38,879\nhuman\n \n\n35\n00:00:38,879 --> 00:00:41,389\nhuman\nintelligence and uh you know that's very\n\n36\n00:00:41,389 --> 00:00:41,399\nintelligence and uh you know that's very\n \n\n37\n00:00:41,399 --> 00:00:43,430\nintelligence and uh you know that's very\nhigh futin it's a lot of fun we get to\n\n38\n00:00:43,430 --> 00:00:43,440\nhigh futin it's a lot of fun we get to\n \n\n39\n00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,590\nhigh futin it's a lot of fun we get to\ndig into all kinds of weird corners of\n\n40\n00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:45,600\ndig into all kinds of weird corners of\n \n\n41\n00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,910\ndig into all kinds of weird corners of\nsoftware and experimental interfaces and\n\n42\n00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:47,920\nsoftware and experimental interfaces and\n \n\n43\n00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,990\nsoftware and experimental interfaces and\nso on but before that I have written a\n\n44\n00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:50,000\nso on but before that I have written a\n \n\n45\n00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,549\nso on but before that I have written a\nlot of production software so I'm not\n\n46\n00:00:51,549 --> 00:00:51,559\nlot of production software so I'm not\n \n\n47\n00:00:51,559 --> 00:00:52,869\nlot of production software so I'm not\njust speaking to you from kind of an\n\n48\n00:00:52,869 --> 00:00:52,879\njust speaking to you from kind of an\n \n\n49\n00:00:52,879 --> 00:00:55,910\njust speaking to you from kind of an\nivory Tower perspective I was one of the\n\n50\n00:00:55,910 --> 00:00:55,920\nivory Tower perspective I was one of the\n \n\n51\n00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,549\nivory Tower perspective I was one of the\nearly employees at a platform as a\n\n52\n00:00:57,549 --> 00:00:57,559\nearly employees at a platform as a\n \n\n53\n00:00:57,559 --> 00:01:00,189\nearly employees at a platform as a\nservice company uh called Heroku I've\n\n54\n00:01:00,189 --> 00:01:00,199\nservice company uh called Heroku I've\n \n\n55\n00:01:00,199 --> 00:01:03,389\nservice company uh called Heroku I've\nrun a lot of postrest databases I've\n\n56\n00:01:03,389 --> 00:01:03,399\nrun a lot of postrest databases I've\n \n\n57\n00:01:03,399 --> 00:01:04,829\nrun a lot of postrest databases I've\nworked in game development as well I've\n\n58\n00:01:04,829 --> 00:01:04,839\nworked in game development as well I've\n \n\n59\n00:01:04,839 --> 00:01:07,230\nworked in game development as well I've\nbuilt titles for DS and GBA I worked on\n\n60\n00:01:07,230 --> 00:01:07,240\nbuilt titles for DS and GBA I worked on\n \n\n61\n00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,469\nbuilt titles for DS and GBA I worked on\nthis one teenage Zombies Invasion of the\n\n62\n00:01:09,469 --> 00:01:09,479\nthis one teenage Zombies Invasion of the\n \n\n63\n00:01:09,479 --> 00:01:12,030\nthis one teenage Zombies Invasion of the\nalien brain thingies for a Victoria BC\n\n64\n00:01:12,030 --> 00:01:12,040\nalien brain thingies for a Victoria BC\n \n\n65\n00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,670\nalien brain thingies for a Victoria BC\ngame company and I've worked on desktop\n\n66\n00:01:14,670 --> 00:01:14,680\ngame company and I've worked on desktop\n \n\n67\n00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,429\ngame company and I've worked on desktop\nsoftware like uh Songbird which was a\n\n68\n00:01:17,429 --> 00:01:17,439\nsoftware like uh Songbird which was a\n \n\n69\n00:01:17,439 --> 00:01:19,429\nsoftware like uh Songbird which was a\ncrossplatform media player that lost\n\n70\n00:01:19,429 --> 00:01:19,439\ncrossplatform media player that lost\n \n\n71\n00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:20,390\ncrossplatform media player that lost\nfairly\n\n72\n00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:20,400\nfairly\n \n\n73\n00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,109\nfairly\ndecisively um and besides that I've also\n\n74\n00:01:24,109 --> 00:01:24,119\ndecisively um and besides that I've also\n \n\n75\n00:01:24,119 --> 00:01:26,990\ndecisively um and besides that I've also\nuh worked in uh research um spending\n\n76\n00:01:26,990 --> 00:01:27,000\nuh worked in uh research um spending\n \n\n77\n00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,590\nuh worked in uh research um spending\nsome time uh on for example this ship\n\n78\n00:01:29,590 --> 00:01:29,600\nsome time uh on for example this ship\n \n\n79\n00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:30,950\nsome time uh on for example this ship\nhere this for Wilford laor it's a\n\n80\n00:01:30,950 --> 00:01:30,960\nhere this for Wilford laor it's a\n \n\n81\n00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:33,350\nhere this for Wilford laor it's a\nCanadian Arctic uh research Icebreaker\n\n82\n00:01:33,350 --> 00:01:33,360\nCanadian Arctic uh research Icebreaker\n \n\n83\n00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,789\nCanadian Arctic uh research Icebreaker\nso I spent some time in the Arctic and\n\n84\n00:01:35,789 --> 00:01:35,799\nso I spent some time in the Arctic and\n \n\n85\n00:01:35,799 --> 00:01:37,190\nso I spent some time in the Arctic and\nthat actually helps inform my\n\n86\n00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:37,200\nthat actually helps inform my\n \n\n87\n00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,590\nthat actually helps inform my\nperspective on things too but we'll come\n\n88\n00:01:38,590 --> 00:01:38,600\nperspective on things too but we'll come\n \n\n89\n00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,350\nperspective on things too but we'll come\nback to that so I want to start by kind\n\n90\n00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:41,360\nback to that so I want to start by kind\n \n\n91\n00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,149\nback to that so I want to start by kind\nof saying hold on a sec before we get\n\n92\n00:01:44,149 --> 00:01:44,159\nof saying hold on a sec before we get\n \n\n93\n00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:46,830\nof saying hold on a sec before we get\ninto kind of talking about why we can't\n\n94\n00:01:46,830 --> 00:01:46,840\ninto kind of talking about why we can't\n \n\n95\n00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,550\ninto kind of talking about why we can't\nmake simple software we should probably\n\n96\n00:01:49,550 --> 00:01:49,560\nmake simple software we should probably\n \n\n97\n00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,709\nmake simple software we should probably\nDefine our terms a little bit and talk\n\n98\n00:01:51,709 --> 00:01:51,719\nDefine our terms a little bit and talk\n \n\n99\n00:01:51,719 --> 00:01:54,709\nDefine our terms a little bit and talk\nabout what complexity actually is so the\n\n100\n00:01:54,709 --> 00:01:54,719\nabout what complexity actually is so the\n \n\n101\n00:01:54,719 --> 00:01:57,310\nabout what complexity actually is so the\nfirst thing I want to clarify is that\n\n102\n00:01:57,310 --> 00:01:57,320\nfirst thing I want to clarify is that\n \n\n103\n00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,789\nfirst thing I want to clarify is that\ncomplexity is not difficulty\n\n104\n00:02:00,789 --> 00:02:00,799\ncomplexity is not difficulty\n \n\n105\n00:02:00,799 --> 00:02:02,270\ncomplexity is not difficulty\nright just because something is hard\n\n106\n00:02:02,270 --> 00:02:02,280\nright just because something is hard\n \n\n107\n00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,789\nright just because something is hard\ndoesn't mean it's complicated like the\n\n108\n00:02:03,789 --> 00:02:03,799\ndoesn't mean it's complicated like the\n \n\n109\n00:02:03,799 --> 00:02:05,990\ndoesn't mean it's complicated like the\nideas of calculus might be very\n\n110\n00:02:05,990 --> 00:02:06,000\nideas of calculus might be very\n \n\n111\n00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,150\nideas of calculus might be very\ndifficult to internalize but they're\n\n112\n00:02:08,150 --> 00:02:08,160\ndifficult to internalize but they're\n \n\n113\n00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,869\ndifficult to internalize but they're\nactually very simple and elegant and I\n\n114\n00:02:10,869 --> 00:02:10,879\nactually very simple and elegant and I\n \n\n115\n00:02:10,879 --> 00:02:12,910\nactually very simple and elegant and I\nalso want to draw a distinction between\n\n116\n00:02:12,910 --> 00:02:12,920\nalso want to draw a distinction between\n \n\n117\n00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:16,110\nalso want to draw a distinction between\nsomething being complex or just being\n\n118\n00:02:16,110 --> 00:02:16,120\nsomething being complex or just being\n \n\n119\n00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,030\nsomething being complex or just being\nkind of big a box of Lego is not\n\n120\n00:02:20,030 --> 00:02:20,040\nkind of big a box of Lego is not\n \n\n121\n00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,309\nkind of big a box of Lego is not\nnecessarily a complicated thing though\n\n122\n00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:22,319\nnecessarily a complicated thing though\n \n\n123\n00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:24,630\nnecessarily a complicated thing though\nyou can make a lot of things with it\n\n124\n00:02:24,630 --> 00:02:24,640\nyou can make a lot of things with it\n \n\n125\n00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:26,790\nyou can make a lot of things with it\ncomplexity occurs when your systems\n\n126\n00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:26,800\ncomplexity occurs when your systems\n \n\n127\n00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,190\ncomplexity occurs when your systems\ninteract with each other okay and when\n\n128\n00:02:30,190 --> 00:02:30,200\ninteract with each other okay and when\n \n\n129\n00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,070\ninteract with each other okay and when\nit takes a lot to uh get things done\n\n130\n00:02:33,070 --> 00:02:33,080\nit takes a lot to uh get things done\n \n\n131\n00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,790\nit takes a lot to uh get things done\nbecause of that and more specifically I\n\n132\n00:02:35,790 --> 00:02:35,800\nbecause of that and more specifically I\n \n\n133\n00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,790\nbecause of that and more specifically I\nthink the problem with complexity is\n\n134\n00:02:37,790 --> 00:02:37,800\nthink the problem with complexity is\n \n\n135\n00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,229\nthink the problem with complexity is\nthat your systems can become\n\n136\n00:02:39,229 --> 00:02:39,239\nthat your systems can become\n \n\n137\n00:02:39,239 --> 00:02:41,309\nthat your systems can become\nunreasonable and when I say unreasonable\n\n138\n00:02:41,309 --> 00:02:41,319\nunreasonable and when I say unreasonable\n \n\n139\n00:02:41,319 --> 00:02:43,390\nunreasonable and when I say unreasonable\nI don't mean in kind of like a sort of\n\n140\n00:02:43,390 --> 00:02:43,400\nI don't mean in kind of like a sort of\n \n\n141\n00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,470\nI don't mean in kind of like a sort of\ncolloquial sense what I mean is that you\n\n142\n00:02:45,470 --> 00:02:45,480\ncolloquial sense what I mean is that you\n \n\n143\n00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,949\ncolloquial sense what I mean is that you\nliterally cannot reason about them you\n\n144\n00:02:47,949 --> 00:02:47,959\nliterally cannot reason about them you\n \n\n145\n00:02:47,959 --> 00:02:50,509\nliterally cannot reason about them you\ndon't have the ability to predict what's\n\n146\n00:02:50,509 --> 00:02:50,519\ndon't have the ability to predict what's\n \n\n147\n00:02:50,519 --> 00:02:51,550\ndon't have the ability to predict what's\ngoing to\n\n148\n00:02:51,550 --> 00:02:51,560\ngoing to\n \n\n149\n00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,589\ngoing to\nhappen and a lot of the time that's a\n\n150\n00:02:53,589 --> 00:02:53,599\nhappen and a lot of the time that's a\n \n\n151\n00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:55,070\nhappen and a lot of the time that's a\nproblem because you got work to do and\n\n152\n00:02:55,070 --> 00:02:55,080\nproblem because you got work to do and\n \n\n153\n00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,670\nproblem because you got work to do and\nthe thing is crashing and you don't know\n\n154\n00:02:56,670 --> 00:02:56,680\nthe thing is crashing and you don't know\n \n\n155\n00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,190\nthe thing is crashing and you don't know\nwhy but a complex system can also be\n\n156\n00:02:59,190 --> 00:02:59,200\nwhy but a complex system can also be\n \n\n157\n00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,670\nwhy but a complex system can also be\ngenerative and surprising if you harness\n\n158\n00:03:01,670 --> 00:03:01,680\ngenerative and surprising if you harness\n \n\n159\n00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,430\ngenerative and surprising if you harness\nthat complexity in positive\n\n160\n00:03:04,430 --> 00:03:04,440\nthat complexity in positive\n \n\n161\n00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,789\nthat complexity in positive\nWays last before we get into it I want\n\n162\n00:03:06,789 --> 00:03:06,799\nWays last before we get into it I want\n \n\n163\n00:03:06,799 --> 00:03:09,350\nWays last before we get into it I want\nto make just a very small uh detail\n\n164\n00:03:09,350 --> 00:03:09,360\nto make just a very small uh detail\n \n\n165\n00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,350\nto make just a very small uh detail\npoint for the uh more pedantic in the\n\n166\n00:03:12,350 --> 00:03:12,360\npoint for the uh more pedantic in the\n \n\n167\n00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,509\npoint for the uh more pedantic in the\naudience some people draw a uh very\n\n168\n00:03:15,509 --> 00:03:15,519\naudience some people draw a uh very\n \n\n169\n00:03:15,519 --> 00:03:17,990\naudience some people draw a uh very\nspecific difference between uh complex\n\n170\n00:03:17,990 --> 00:03:18,000\nspecific difference between uh complex\n \n\n171\n00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,630\nspecific difference between uh complex\nsystems from sort of chaos math and like\n\n172\n00:03:20,630 --> 00:03:20,640\nsystems from sort of chaos math and like\n \n\n173\n00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:22,589\nsystems from sort of chaos math and like\nemerging complexity we'll talk a little\n\n174\n00:03:22,589 --> 00:03:22,599\nemerging complexity we'll talk a little\n \n\n175\n00:03:22,599 --> 00:03:24,949\nemerging complexity we'll talk a little\nbit about that H as distinguished from\n\n176\n00:03:24,949 --> 00:03:24,959\nbit about that H as distinguished from\n \n\n177\n00:03:24,959 --> 00:03:27,030\nbit about that H as distinguished from\ncomplicated systems where you have a lot\n\n178\n00:03:27,030 --> 00:03:27,040\ncomplicated systems where you have a lot\n \n\n179\n00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,110\ncomplicated systems where you have a lot\nof just kind of mess I'm kind kind of\n\n180\n00:03:30,110 --> 00:03:30,120\nof just kind of mess I'm kind kind of\n \n\n181\n00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,070\nof just kind of mess I'm kind kind of\ngoing to float back and forth across\n\n182\n00:03:32,070 --> 00:03:32,080\ngoing to float back and forth across\n \n\n183\n00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,270\ngoing to float back and forth across\nboth of these without a lot of\n\n184\n00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:33,280\nboth of these without a lot of\n \n\n185\n00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,630\nboth of these without a lot of\nDistinction because I think in this\n\n186\n00:03:34,630 --> 00:03:34,640\nDistinction because I think in this\n \n\n187\n00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:38,789\nDistinction because I think in this\ncontext either one can cause similar\n\n188\n00:03:38,789 --> 00:03:38,799\ncontext either one can cause similar\n \n\n189\n00:03:38,799 --> 00:03:43,309\ncontext either one can cause similar\neffects okay so we're going to begin\n\n190\n00:03:43,309 --> 00:03:43,319\neffects okay so we're going to begin\n \n\n191\n00:03:43,319 --> 00:03:47,350\neffects okay so we're going to begin\nwith a non-comprehensive look at\n\n192\n00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:47,360\nwith a non-comprehensive look at\n \n\n193\n00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,390\nwith a non-comprehensive look at\ncomplexity and more specifically we're\n\n194\n00:03:49,390 --> 00:03:49,400\ncomplexity and more specifically we're\n \n\n195\n00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,509\ncomplexity and more specifically we're\ngoing to kind of like pick some cherry\n\n196\n00:03:51,509 --> 00:03:51,519\ngoing to kind of like pick some cherry\n \n\n197\n00:03:51,519 --> 00:03:53,390\ngoing to kind of like pick some cherry\npick some examples sort of from fake\n\n198\n00:03:53,390 --> 00:03:53,400\npick some examples sort of from fake\n \n\n199\n00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,869\npick some examples sort of from fake\nindustrial sort of scenarios where you\n\n200\n00:03:55,869 --> 00:03:55,879\nindustrial sort of scenarios where you\n \n\n201\n00:03:55,879 --> 00:03:57,869\nindustrial sort of scenarios where you\ncan begin with something simple and end\n\n202\n00:03:57,869 --> 00:03:57,879\ncan begin with something simple and end\n \n\n203\n00:03:57,879 --> 00:04:00,350\ncan begin with something simple and end\nup with something complicated\n\n204\n00:04:00,350 --> 00:04:00,360\nup with something complicated\n \n\n205\n00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,069\nup with something complicated\nso I'm going to start with like the most\n\n206\n00:04:03,069 --> 00:04:03,079\nso I'm going to start with like the most\n \n\n207\n00:04:03,079 --> 00:04:04,949\nso I'm going to start with like the most\nbasic of all reasons why your software\n\n208\n00:04:04,949 --> 00:04:04,959\nbasic of all reasons why your software\n \n\n209\n00:04:04,959 --> 00:04:07,149\nbasic of all reasons why your software\ngets complicated and that's you know the\n\n210\n00:04:07,149 --> 00:04:07,159\ngets complicated and that's you know the\n \n\n211\n00:04:07,159 --> 00:04:08,830\ngets complicated and that's you know the\nfirst version of your code you just\n\n212\n00:04:08,830 --> 00:04:08,840\nfirst version of your code you just\n \n\n213\n00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,350\nfirst version of your code you just\nwrite the happy path everything's\n\n214\n00:04:10,350 --> 00:04:10,360\nwrite the happy path everything's\n \n\n215\n00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,270\nwrite the happy path everything's\nglorious and and software can be really\n\n216\n00:04:12,270 --> 00:04:12,280\nglorious and and software can be really\n \n\n217\n00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:13,910\nglorious and and software can be really\nsimple when it lives in an idealized\n\n218\n00:04:13,910 --> 00:04:13,920\nsimple when it lives in an idealized\n \n\n219\n00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,150\nsimple when it lives in an idealized\nworld and everything is fine and so you\n\n220\n00:04:16,150 --> 00:04:16,160\nworld and everything is fine and so you\n \n\n221\n00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,349\nworld and everything is fine and so you\nknow here's like a really simple\n\n222\n00:04:17,349 --> 00:04:17,359\nknow here's like a really simple\n \n\n223\n00:04:17,359 --> 00:04:20,390\nknow here's like a really simple\nimaginary you know pseudo code web thing\n\n224\n00:04:20,390 --> 00:04:20,400\nimaginary you know pseudo code web thing\n \n\n225\n00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,110\nimaginary you know pseudo code web thing\ngreat we got a get request to our\n\n226\n00:04:22,110 --> 00:04:22,120\ngreat we got a get request to our\n \n\n227\n00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,749\ngreat we got a get request to our\napplication you know we're going to go\n\n228\n00:04:23,749 --> 00:04:23,759\napplication you know we're going to go\n \n\n229\n00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:25,030\napplication you know we're going to go\nfetch something from the database and\n\n230\n00:04:25,030 --> 00:04:25,040\nfetch something from the database and\n \n\n231\n00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,350\nfetch something from the database and\nsay hello there this is a Hello World\n\n232\n00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:27,360\nsay hello there this is a Hello World\n \n\n233\n00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,510\nsay hello there this is a Hello World\napp of web apps server apps great it\n\n234\n00:04:30,510 --> 00:04:30,520\napp of web apps server apps great it\n \n\n235\n00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,990\napp of web apps server apps great it\nworks fine you know if user 12 is me and\n\n236\n00:04:32,990 --> 00:04:33,000\nworks fine you know if user 12 is me and\n \n\n237\n00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,390\nworks fine you know if user 12 is me and\nuser 10 is my friend KO and user fu is\n\n238\n00:04:35,390 --> 00:04:35,400\nuser 10 is my friend KO and user fu is\n \n\n239\n00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,230\nuser 10 is my friend KO and user fu is\nwait what ah\n\n240\n00:04:38,230 --> 00:04:38,240\nwait what ah\n \n\n241\n00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,590\nwait what ah\nright we got to validate the input okay\n\n242\n00:04:41,590 --> 00:04:41,600\nright we got to validate the input okay\n \n\n243\n00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,749\nright we got to validate the input okay\nso we'll validate the\n\n244\n00:04:43,749 --> 00:04:43,759\nso we'll validate the\n \n\n245\n00:04:43,759 --> 00:04:46,629\nso we'll validate the\nrequest now okay so we're validating the\n\n246\n00:04:46,629 --> 00:04:46,639\nrequest now okay so we're validating the\n \n\n247\n00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:49,550\nrequest now okay so we're validating the\nrequest and and that's good and oh geez\n\n248\n00:04:49,550 --> 00:04:49,560\nrequest and and that's good and oh geez\n \n\n249\n00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,469\nrequest and and that's good and oh geez\nI'm not really handling it if we don't\n\n250\n00:04:51,469 --> 00:04:51,479\nI'm not really handling it if we don't\n \n\n251\n00:04:51,479 --> 00:04:53,390\nI'm not really handling it if we don't\nvalidate the request and wait do I have\n\n252\n00:04:53,390 --> 00:04:53,400\nvalidate the request and wait do I have\n \n\n253\n00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,430\nvalidate the request and wait do I have\nto do this on every request I guess I\n\n254\n00:04:56,430 --> 00:04:56,440\nto do this on every request I guess I\n \n\n255\n00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,990\nto do this on every request I guess I\nhave to do this on every request and am\n\n256\n00:04:57,990 --> 00:04:58,000\nhave to do this on every request and am\n \n\n257\n00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,830\nhave to do this on every request and am\nI doing it the same way on every\n\n258\n00:05:02,830 --> 00:05:02,840\n\n \n\n259\n00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:06,550\n\nrequest in fact this exact pattern of\n\n260\n00:05:06,550 --> 00:05:06,560\nrequest in fact this exact pattern of\n \n\n261\n00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,550\nrequest in fact this exact pattern of\nvalidating user input and checking your\n\n262\n00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:08,560\nvalidating user input and checking your\n \n\n263\n00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,430\nvalidating user input and checking your\narguments can lead to something that uh\n\n264\n00:05:10,430 --> 00:05:10,440\narguments can lead to something that uh\n \n\n265\n00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,990\narguments can lead to something that uh\nbratus and Patterson call shotgun\n\n266\n00:05:11,990 --> 00:05:12,000\nbratus and Patterson call shotgun\n \n\n267\n00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,270\nbratus and Patterson call shotgun\nparsing and shotgun parsing is kind of\n\n268\n00:05:14,270 --> 00:05:14,280\nparsing and shotgun parsing is kind of\n \n\n269\n00:05:14,280 --> 00:05:15,870\nparsing and shotgun parsing is kind of\nthe idea that you know you're parsing\n\n270\n00:05:15,870 --> 00:05:15,880\nthe idea that you know you're parsing\n \n\n271\n00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,510\nthe idea that you know you're parsing\nyour input but it's like someone's taken\n\n272\n00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:17,520\nyour input but it's like someone's taken\n \n\n273\n00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,710\nyour input but it's like someone's taken\na shotgun to your code base because it's\n\n274\n00:05:19,710 --> 00:05:19,720\na shotgun to your code base because it's\n \n\n275\n00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,670\na shotgun to your code base because it's\njust blown through the whole code base\n\n276\n00:05:22,670 --> 00:05:22,680\njust blown through the whole code base\n \n\n277\n00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,309\njust blown through the whole code base\nand it can lead to very serious security\n\n278\n00:05:24,309 --> 00:05:24,319\nand it can lead to very serious security\n \n\n279\n00:05:24,319 --> 00:05:25,590\nand it can lead to very serious security\nvulnerabilities because you might\n\n280\n00:05:25,590 --> 00:05:25,600\nvulnerabilities because you might\n \n\n281\n00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,430\nvulnerabilities because you might\ncarefully check an input in one place\n\n282\n00:05:28,430 --> 00:05:28,440\ncarefully check an input in one place\n \n\n283\n00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,550\ncarefully check an input in one place\nbut not in another and a great talk from\n\n284\n00:05:30,550 --> 00:05:30,560\nbut not in another and a great talk from\n \n\n285\n00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,510\nbut not in another and a great talk from\nbrwon 2012 about\n\n286\n00:05:32,510 --> 00:05:32,520\nbrwon 2012 about\n \n\n287\n00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,870\nbrwon 2012 about\nthis so of course you know now we're\n\n288\n00:05:34,870 --> 00:05:34,880\nthis so of course you know now we're\n \n\n289\n00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,430\nthis so of course you know now we're\ngoing to be a little more careful so\n\n290\n00:05:36,430 --> 00:05:36,440\ngoing to be a little more careful so\n \n\n291\n00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,629\ngoing to be a little more careful so\nwe're going to also you know if the\n\n292\n00:05:38,629 --> 00:05:38,639\nwe're going to also you know if the\n \n\n293\n00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:40,270\nwe're going to also you know if the\ndatabase is down we don't want to send a\n\n294\n00:05:40,270 --> 00:05:40,280\ndatabase is down we don't want to send a\n \n\n295\n00:05:40,280 --> 00:05:42,909\ndatabase is down we don't want to send a\n500 we're going to fail elegantly and as\n\n296\n00:05:42,909 --> 00:05:42,919\n500 we're going to fail elegantly and as\n \n\n297\n00:05:42,919 --> 00:05:45,230\n500 we're going to fail elegantly and as\nyou go the more of these cases that you\n\n298\n00:05:45,230 --> 00:05:45,240\nyou go the more of these cases that you\n \n\n299\n00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,070\nyou go the more of these cases that you\nhave to handle and the better the\n\n300\n00:05:47,070 --> 00:05:47,080\nhave to handle and the better the\n \n\n301\n00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,350\nhave to handle and the better the\nquality of your code is right the more\n\n302\n00:05:50,350 --> 00:05:50,360\nquality of your code is right the more\n \n\n303\n00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,029\nquality of your code is right the more\nconservative defensive thorough that you\n\n304\n00:05:53,029 --> 00:05:53,039\nconservative defensive thorough that you\n \n\n305\n00:05:53,039 --> 00:05:55,790\nconservative defensive thorough that you\nare like at this point now like the the\n\n306\n00:05:55,790 --> 00:05:55,800\nare like at this point now like the the\n \n\n307\n00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,150\nare like at this point now like the the\nactual logic of this method is beginning\n\n308\n00:05:59,150 --> 00:05:59,160\nactual logic of this method is beginning\n \n\n309\n00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,270\nactual logic of this method is beginning\nto dis disappear into all the edge case\n\n310\n00:06:02,270 --> 00:06:02,280\nto dis disappear into all the edge case\n \n\n311\n00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:04,469\nto dis disappear into all the edge case\nhandling right we're we're well off the\n\n312\n00:06:04,469 --> 00:06:04,479\nhandling right we're we're well off the\n \n\n313\n00:06:04,479 --> 00:06:07,350\nhandling right we're we're well off the\nhappy path now and so you know you can\n\n314\n00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:07,360\nhappy path now and so you know you can\n \n\n315\n00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,990\nhappy path now and so you know you can\nclean this up a little bit so for\n\n316\n00:06:08,990 --> 00:06:09,000\nclean this up a little bit so for\n \n\n317\n00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,110\nclean this up a little bit so for\nImagine here in this case that you know\n\n318\n00:06:11,110 --> 00:06:11,120\nImagine here in this case that you know\n \n\n319\n00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,670\nImagine here in this case that you know\nwe have a slightly uh better set of\n\n320\n00:06:13,670 --> 00:06:13,680\nwe have a slightly uh better set of\n \n\n321\n00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,710\nwe have a slightly uh better set of\nlibraries more thoroughly written set of\n\n322\n00:06:15,710 --> 00:06:15,720\nlibraries more thoroughly written set of\n \n\n323\n00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,589\nlibraries more thoroughly written set of\nlibraries we've moved the complexity\n\n324\n00:06:17,589 --> 00:06:17,599\nlibraries we've moved the complexity\n \n\n325\n00:06:17,599 --> 00:06:19,029\nlibraries we've moved the complexity\ndown out of this method and we're sort\n\n326\n00:06:19,029 --> 00:06:19,039\ndown out of this method and we're sort\n \n\n327\n00:06:19,039 --> 00:06:20,870\ndown out of this method and we're sort\nof saying like well the database won't\n\n328\n00:06:20,870 --> 00:06:20,880\nof saying like well the database won't\n \n\n329\n00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,390\nof saying like well the database won't\nthrow an exception right because\n\n330\n00:06:22,390 --> 00:06:22,400\nthrow an exception right because\n \n\n331\n00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,230\nthrow an exception right because\nexceptions are ugly and kind of subtle\n\n332\n00:06:24,230 --> 00:06:24,240\nexceptions are ugly and kind of subtle\n \n\n333\n00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,150\nexceptions are ugly and kind of subtle\nto handle well it'll just it'll return\n\n334\n00:06:26,150 --> 00:06:26,160\nto handle well it'll just it'll return\n \n\n335\n00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:27,830\nto handle well it'll just it'll return\nnull if it can't do the job for whatever\n\n336\n00:06:27,830 --> 00:06:27,840\nnull if it can't do the job for whatever\n \n\n337\n00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:30,430\nnull if it can't do the job for whatever\nreason and we're going to say well we'll\n\n338\n00:06:30,430 --> 00:06:30,440\nreason and we're going to say well we'll\n \n\n339\n00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,390\nreason and we're going to say well we'll\nyou know there's like a good type system\n\n340\n00:06:32,390 --> 00:06:32,400\nyou know there's like a good type system\n \n\n341\n00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,350\nyou know there's like a good type system\nthat's handling parsing the input args\n\n342\n00:06:34,350 --> 00:06:34,360\nthat's handling parsing the input args\n \n\n343\n00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,110\nthat's handling parsing the input args\nbefore they get to us so you know we can\n\n344\n00:06:37,110 --> 00:06:37,120\nbefore they get to us so you know we can\n \n\n345\n00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,230\nbefore they get to us so you know we can\nwe don't have to worry about that\n\n346\n00:06:38,230 --> 00:06:38,240\nwe don't have to worry about that\n \n\n347\n00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,189\nwe don't have to worry about that\nanymore and the value of\n\n348\n00:06:40,189 --> 00:06:40,199\nanymore and the value of\n \n\n349\n00:06:40,199 --> 00:06:42,710\nanymore and the value of\nwell-written uh libraries and languages\n\n350\n00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:42,720\nwell-written uh libraries and languages\n \n\n351\n00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,830\nwell-written uh libraries and languages\ntype systems and so on is that they can\n\n352\n00:06:44,830 --> 00:06:44,840\ntype systems and so on is that they can\n \n\n353\n00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:47,469\ntype systems and so on is that they can\nreally simplify your code make it less\n\n354\n00:06:47,469 --> 00:06:47,479\nreally simplify your code make it less\n \n\n355\n00:06:47,479 --> 00:06:49,710\nreally simplify your code make it less\ncomplex by preventing you from have to\n\n356\n00:06:49,710 --> 00:06:49,720\ncomplex by preventing you from have to\n \n\n357\n00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,589\ncomplex by preventing you from have to\ncarry around all of this mental state\n\n358\n00:06:52,589 --> 00:06:52,599\ncarry around all of this mental state\n \n\n359\n00:06:52,599 --> 00:06:53,830\ncarry around all of this mental state\neverywhere that you\n\n360\n00:06:53,830 --> 00:06:53,840\neverywhere that you\n \n\n361\n00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:56,189\neverywhere that you\ngo and you know kind of my observation\n\n362\n00:06:56,189 --> 00:06:56,199\ngo and you know kind of my observation\n \n\n363\n00:06:56,199 --> 00:06:57,950\ngo and you know kind of my observation\nof this world is that like vigilance is\n\n364\n00:06:57,950 --> 00:06:57,960\nof this world is that like vigilance is\n \n\n365\n00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,430\nof this world is that like vigilance is\nnot a strategy like we talk earlier\n\n366\n00:07:00,430 --> 00:07:00,440\nnot a strategy like we talk earlier\n \n\n367\n00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,869\nnot a strategy like we talk earlier\nabout how you know if a system fails\n\n368\n00:07:02,869 --> 00:07:02,879\nabout how you know if a system fails\n \n\n369\n00:07:02,879 --> 00:07:04,830\nabout how you know if a system fails\nit's not oh the blameless postmortem\n\n370\n00:07:04,830 --> 00:07:04,840\nit's not oh the blameless postmortem\n \n\n371\n00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:06,710\nit's not oh the blameless postmortem\nit's not that the the developer failed\n\n372\n00:07:06,710 --> 00:07:06,720\nit's not that the the developer failed\n \n\n373\n00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,550\nit's not that the the developer failed\nit's that the system failed you know if\n\n374\n00:07:08,550 --> 00:07:08,560\nit's that the system failed you know if\n \n\n375\n00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,110\nit's that the system failed you know if\nyou have security vulnerabilities in\n\n376\n00:07:10,110 --> 00:07:10,120\nyou have security vulnerabilities in\n \n\n377\n00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,350\nyou have security vulnerabilities in\nyour code because you didn't handle\n\n378\n00:07:11,350 --> 00:07:11,360\nyour code because you didn't handle\n \n\n379\n00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,150\nyour code because you didn't handle\ninput the answer isn't to berate\n\n380\n00:07:13,150 --> 00:07:13,160\ninput the answer isn't to berate\n \n\n381\n00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,230\ninput the answer isn't to berate\nyourself for not handling the input you\n\n382\n00:07:15,230 --> 00:07:15,240\nyourself for not handling the input you\n \n\n383\n00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,909\nyourself for not handling the input you\nknow it's to step back to level up and\n\n384\n00:07:16,909 --> 00:07:16,919\nknow it's to step back to level up and\n \n\n385\n00:07:16,919 --> 00:07:19,469\nknow it's to step back to level up and\nsay like well hold on why do I have to\n\n386\n00:07:19,469 --> 00:07:19,479\nsay like well hold on why do I have to\n \n\n387\n00:07:19,479 --> 00:07:21,830\nsay like well hold on why do I have to\ndo this manually every\n\n388\n00:07:21,830 --> 00:07:21,840\ndo this manually every\n \n\n389\n00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,390\ndo this manually every\ntime so so to strategically you want to\n\n390\n00:07:24,390 --> 00:07:24,400\ntime so so to strategically you want to\n \n\n391\n00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,589\ntime so so to strategically you want to\nminimize the scope of failures and and\n\n392\n00:07:26,589 --> 00:07:26,599\nminimize the scope of failures and and\n \n\n393\n00:07:26,599 --> 00:07:28,550\nminimize the scope of failures and and\nkind of design them out of your system\n\n394\n00:07:28,550 --> 00:07:28,560\nkind of design them out of your system\n \n\n395\n00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:29,950\nkind of design them out of your system\nand one way to do that is have a type\n\n396\n00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:29,960\nand one way to do that is have a type\n \n\n397\n00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,390\nand one way to do that is have a type\nsystem so you don't you know forget to\n\n398\n00:07:31,390 --> 00:07:31,400\nsystem so you don't you know forget to\n \n\n399\n00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,469\nsystem so you don't you know forget to\ncheck your nulls there are other\n\n400\n00:07:33,469 --> 00:07:33,479\ncheck your nulls there are other\n \n\n401\n00:07:33,479 --> 00:07:34,550\ncheck your nulls there are other\napproaches I don't think this is\n\n402\n00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:34,560\napproaches I don't think this is\n \n\n403\n00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,189\napproaches I don't think this is\nuniversally true but it's one way okay\n\n404\n00:07:38,189 --> 00:07:38,199\nuniversally true but it's one way okay\n \n\n405\n00:07:38,199 --> 00:07:40,710\nuniversally true but it's one way okay\nso let's talk about scale you know we\n\n406\n00:07:40,710 --> 00:07:40,720\nso let's talk about scale you know we\n \n\n407\n00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,749\nso let's talk about scale you know we\nall know as an array gets bigger you can\n\n408\n00:07:42,749 --> 00:07:42,759\nall know as an array gets bigger you can\n \n\n409\n00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:44,909\nall know as an array gets bigger you can\nhave an O of n log n kind of sort\n\n410\n00:07:44,909 --> 00:07:44,919\nhave an O of n log n kind of sort\n \n\n411\n00:07:44,919 --> 00:07:46,670\nhave an O of n log n kind of sort\nalgorithm great okay well let's you know\n\n412\n00:07:46,670 --> 00:07:46,680\nalgorithm great okay well let's you know\n \n\n413\n00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,350\nalgorithm great okay well let's you know\nscale's easy right so let's just imagine\n\n414\n00:07:48,350 --> 00:07:48,360\nscale's easy right so let's just imagine\n \n\n415\n00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,230\nscale's easy right so let's just imagine\nan admin panel for a web application you\n\n416\n00:07:50,230 --> 00:07:50,240\nan admin panel for a web application you\n \n\n417\n00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,270\nan admin panel for a web application you\nlist your users looks kind of like this\n\n418\n00:07:52,270 --> 00:07:52,280\nlist your users looks kind of like this\n \n\n419\n00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,230\nlist your users looks kind of like this\ngo to your database select all the users\n\n420\n00:07:54,230 --> 00:07:54,240\ngo to your database select all the users\n \n\n421\n00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,309\ngo to your database select all the users\nand then in your front end just show\n\n422\n00:07:55,309 --> 00:07:55,319\nand then in your front end just show\n \n\n423\n00:07:55,319 --> 00:07:57,029\nand then in your front end just show\nthem all perfect easy it's fine you've\n\n424\n00:07:57,029 --> 00:07:57,039\nthem all perfect easy it's fine you've\n \n\n425\n00:07:57,039 --> 00:07:59,670\nthem all perfect easy it's fine you've\nonly got 10 users who cares\n\n426\n00:07:59,670 --> 00:07:59,680\nonly got 10 users who cares\n \n\n427\n00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,710\nonly got 10 users who cares\nokay well now we're at 10 to the four\n\n428\n00:08:01,710 --> 00:08:01,720\nokay well now we're at 10 to the four\n \n\n429\n00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,629\nokay well now we're at 10 to the four\nokay you've got a thousand users or so\n\n430\n00:08:04,629 --> 00:08:04,639\nokay you've got a thousand users or so\n \n\n431\n00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:06,629\nokay you've got a thousand users or so\nokay well okay we can't just render all\n\n432\n00:08:06,629 --> 00:08:06,639\nokay well okay we can't just render all\n \n\n433\n00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:08,550\nokay well okay we can't just render all\nthat on one screen okay well uh we're\n\n434\n00:08:08,550 --> 00:08:08,560\nthat on one screen okay well uh we're\n \n\n435\n00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,710\nthat on one screen okay well uh we're\ngoing to use one of those offset SQL\n\n436\n00:08:10,710 --> 00:08:10,720\ngoing to use one of those offset SQL\n \n\n437\n00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,710\ngoing to use one of those offset SQL\nthings right we know about this and then\n\n438\n00:08:12,710 --> 00:08:12,720\nthings right we know about this and then\n \n\n439\n00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,110\nthings right we know about this and then\nwe're going to need pagination I guess\n\n440\n00:08:15,110 --> 00:08:15,120\nwe're going to need pagination I guess\n \n\n441\n00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,510\nwe're going to need pagination I guess\nand you got to click through okay yeah\n\n442\n00:08:16,510 --> 00:08:16,520\nand you got to click through okay yeah\n \n\n443\n00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,629\nand you got to click through okay yeah\nsure we can still do this this is fine\n\n444\n00:08:18,629 --> 00:08:18,639\nsure we can still do this this is fine\n \n\n445\n00:08:18,639 --> 00:08:19,950\nsure we can still do this this is fine\nyeah you don't want to request all that\n\n446\n00:08:19,950 --> 00:08:19,960\nyeah you don't want to request all that\n \n\n447\n00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,110\nyeah you don't want to request all that\nit's pain to scroll through okay well\n\n448\n00:08:22,110 --> 00:08:22,120\nit's pain to scroll through okay well\n \n\n449\n00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:23,990\nit's pain to scroll through okay well\nnow we're 10 to the six users we got a\n\n450\n00:08:23,990 --> 00:08:24,000\nnow we're 10 to the six users we got a\n \n\n451\n00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,710\nnow we're 10 to the six users we got a\nmillion actually that offset thing\n\n452\n00:08:26,710 --> 00:08:26,720\nmillion actually that offset thing\n \n\n453\n00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,309\nmillion actually that offset thing\nthat's a problem if you have a lot of\n\n454\n00:08:28,309 --> 00:08:28,319\nthat's a problem if you have a lot of\n \n\n455\n00:08:28,319 --> 00:08:30,469\nthat's a problem if you have a lot of\nusers because in order to generate you\n\n456\n00:08:30,469 --> 00:08:30,479\nusers because in order to generate you\n \n\n457\n00:08:30,479 --> 00:08:33,870\nusers because in order to generate you\nknow page 8850 it actually selects all\n\n458\n00:08:33,870 --> 00:08:33,880\nknow page 8850 it actually selects all\n \n\n459\n00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,670\nknow page 8850 it actually selects all\nof those rows and Scrolls through them\n\n460\n00:08:35,670 --> 00:08:35,680\nof those rows and Scrolls through them\n \n\n461\n00:08:35,680 --> 00:08:37,589\nof those rows and Scrolls through them\nand just takes all of those results and\n\n462\n00:08:37,589 --> 00:08:37,599\nand just takes all of those results and\n \n\n463\n00:08:37,599 --> 00:08:38,909\nand just takes all of those results and\njust Chucks them on the floor until it\n\n464\n00:08:38,909 --> 00:08:38,919\njust Chucks them on the floor until it\n \n\n465\n00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:40,909\njust Chucks them on the floor until it\ngets the ones that you asked about and\n\n466\n00:08:40,909 --> 00:08:40,919\ngets the ones that you asked about and\n \n\n467\n00:08:40,919 --> 00:08:42,670\ngets the ones that you asked about and\nactually now even though nothing has\n\n468\n00:08:42,670 --> 00:08:42,680\nactually now even though nothing has\n \n\n469\n00:08:42,680 --> 00:08:45,670\nactually now even though nothing has\nchanged about our problem statement like\n\n470\n00:08:45,670 --> 00:08:45,680\nchanged about our problem statement like\n \n\n471\n00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:47,910\nchanged about our problem statement like\nnot only are the performance\n\n472\n00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:47,920\nnot only are the performance\n \n\n473\n00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,430\nnot only are the performance\ncharacteristics of the system starting\n\n474\n00:08:49,430 --> 00:08:49,440\ncharacteristics of the system starting\n \n\n475\n00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,150\ncharacteristics of the system starting\nto change and the user interface is\n\n476\n00:08:51,150 --> 00:08:51,160\nto change and the user interface is\n \n\n477\n00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,710\nto change and the user interface is\nstarting to change but the the way that\n\n478\n00:08:53,710 --> 00:08:53,720\nstarting to change but the the way that\n \n\n479\n00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,470\nstarting to change but the the way that\nwe interact with the problem is changing\n\n480\n00:08:55,470 --> 00:08:55,480\nwe interact with the problem is changing\n \n\n481\n00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,910\nwe interact with the problem is changing\ntoo because if you've got a million\n\n482\n00:08:56,910 --> 00:08:56,920\ntoo because if you've got a million\n \n\n483\n00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,150\ntoo because if you've got a million\nusers the way to find a user is not to\n\n484\n00:08:59,150 --> 00:08:59,160\nusers the way to find a user is not to\n \n\n485\n00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,269\nusers the way to find a user is not to\njust like keep clicking next until you\n\n486\n00:09:01,269 --> 00:09:01,279\njust like keep clicking next until you\n \n\n487\n00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:04,470\njust like keep clicking next until you\nfind them one page after oh page 350\n\n488\n00:09:04,470 --> 00:09:04,480\nfind them one page after oh page 350\n \n\n489\n00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,470\nfind them one page after oh page 350\nokay I'm on the J's Okay click forward\n\n490\n00:09:06,470 --> 00:09:06,480\nokay I'm on the J's Okay click forward\n \n\n491\n00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,509\nokay I'm on the J's Okay click forward\nto change the query AR to force you\n\n492\n00:09:08,509 --> 00:09:08,519\nto change the query AR to force you\n \n\n493\n00:09:08,519 --> 00:09:09,829\nto change the query AR to force you\nwe've all done these kinds of things\n\n494\n00:09:09,829 --> 00:09:09,839\nwe've all done these kinds of things\n \n\n495\n00:09:09,839 --> 00:09:11,430\nwe've all done these kinds of things\nwhen the tools didn't keep up with our\n\n496\n00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:11,440\nwhen the tools didn't keep up with our\n \n\n497\n00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,590\nwhen the tools didn't keep up with our\nadmin systems but like the point I'm\n\n498\n00:09:14,590 --> 00:09:14,600\nadmin systems but like the point I'm\n \n\n499\n00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,470\nadmin systems but like the point I'm\ntrying to make here is that you know\n\n500\n00:09:16,470 --> 00:09:16,480\ntrying to make here is that you know\n \n\n501\n00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,069\ntrying to make here is that you know\nonce you start to reach like a 100\n\n502\n00:09:18,069 --> 00:09:18,079\nonce you start to reach like a 100\n \n\n503\n00:09:18,079 --> 00:09:20,870\nonce you start to reach like a 100\nmillion users you know it's not even the\n\n504\n00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:20,880\nmillion users you know it's not even the\n \n\n505\n00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,670\nmillion users you know it's not even the\nsame kind of problem anymore right the\n\n506\n00:09:23,670 --> 00:09:23,680\nsame kind of problem anymore right the\n \n\n507\n00:09:23,680 --> 00:09:26,470\nsame kind of problem anymore right the\ncomplexity that snuck in here is now\n\n508\n00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:26,480\ncomplexity that snuck in here is now\n \n\n509\n00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,389\ncomplexity that snuck in here is now\nthat we have different responsibilities\n\n510\n00:09:28,389 --> 00:09:28,399\nthat we have different responsibilities\n \n\n511\n00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:30,310\nthat we have different responsibilities\nthere are ethical there are legal there\n\n512\n00:09:30,310 --> 00:09:30,320\nthere are ethical there are legal there\n \n\n513\n00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,190\nthere are ethical there are legal there\nare policy responsibilities you probably\n\n514\n00:09:32,190 --> 00:09:32,200\nare policy responsibilities you probably\n \n\n515\n00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,150\nare policy responsibilities you probably\nhave a team of people at your\n\n516\n00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:34,160\nhave a team of people at your\n \n\n517\n00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,750\nhave a team of people at your\norganization who are responsible for\n\n518\n00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:35,760\norganization who are responsible for\n \n\n519\n00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,790\norganization who are responsible for\ndealing with abuse some of these people\n\n520\n00:09:37,790 --> 00:09:37,800\ndealing with abuse some of these people\n \n\n521\n00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,269\ndealing with abuse some of these people\nare terrible and you want them off your\n\n522\n00:09:39,269 --> 00:09:39,279\nare terrible and you want them off your\n \n\n523\n00:09:39,279 --> 00:09:41,110\nare terrible and you want them off your\nplatform and you can't find them right\n\n524\n00:09:41,110 --> 00:09:41,120\nplatform and you can't find them right\n \n\n525\n00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,829\nplatform and you can't find them right\nlike it's a different thing and it's\n\n526\n00:09:43,829 --> 00:09:43,839\nlike it's a different thing and it's\n \n\n527\n00:09:43,839 --> 00:09:46,110\nlike it's a different thing and it's\ncomplicated because the environment has\n\n528\n00:09:46,110 --> 00:09:46,120\ncomplicated because the environment has\n \n\n529\n00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,509\ncomplicated because the environment has\nchanged as much as anything\n\n530\n00:09:48,509 --> 00:09:48,519\nchanged as much as anything\n \n\n531\n00:09:48,519 --> 00:09:51,829\nchanged as much as anything\nelse so everything changes when your\n\n532\n00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:51,839\nelse so everything changes when your\n \n\n533\n00:09:51,839 --> 00:09:53,590\nelse so everything changes when your\nscale changes it's not just like an\n\n534\n00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:53,600\nscale changes it's not just like an\n \n\n535\n00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,430\nscale changes it's not just like an\nalgorithmic thing it's also the kinds of\n\n536\n00:09:56,430 --> 00:09:56,440\nalgorithmic thing it's also the kinds of\n \n\n537\n00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,790\nalgorithmic thing it's also the kinds of\nthings that you're doing change and like\n\n538\n00:09:58,790 --> 00:09:58,800\nthings that you're doing change and like\n \n\n539\n00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,350\nthings that you're doing change and like\nin general my advice to someone who's\n\n540\n00:10:00,350 --> 00:10:00,360\nin general my advice to someone who's\n \n\n541\n00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,190\nin general my advice to someone who's\nbuilt a lot of high-scale production\n\n542\n00:10:02,190 --> 00:10:02,200\nbuilt a lot of high-scale production\n \n\n543\n00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,949\nbuilt a lot of high-scale production\nsystems through many orders of magnitude\n\n544\n00:10:04,949 --> 00:10:04,959\nsystems through many orders of magnitude\n \n\n545\n00:10:04,959 --> 00:10:07,870\nsystems through many orders of magnitude\nis that it's as harmful to build for the\n\n546\n00:10:07,870 --> 00:10:07,880\nis that it's as harmful to build for the\n \n\n547\n00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,269\nis that it's as harmful to build for the\nsystem of the future as it is to build\n\n548\n00:10:11,269 --> 00:10:11,279\nsystem of the future as it is to build\n \n\n549\n00:10:11,279 --> 00:10:13,230\nsystem of the future as it is to build\nan insufficient system for the present\n\n550\n00:10:13,230 --> 00:10:13,240\nan insufficient system for the present\n \n\n551\n00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,870\nan insufficient system for the present\nyou know if you build the tools for 100\n\n552\n00:10:14,870 --> 00:10:14,880\nyou know if you build the tools for 100\n \n\n553\n00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,269\nyou know if you build the tools for 100\nmillion users when you have a hundred\n\n554\n00:10:16,269 --> 00:10:16,279\nmillion users when you have a hundred\n \n\n555\n00:10:16,279 --> 00:10:17,470\nmillion users when you have a hundred\nusers they're going to be completely\n\n556\n00:10:17,470 --> 00:10:17,480\nusers they're going to be completely\n \n\n557\n00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,190\nusers they're going to be completely\nunusable too and you're going to waste\n\n558\n00:10:19,190 --> 00:10:19,200\nunusable too and you're going to waste\n \n\n559\n00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,710\nunusable too and you're going to waste\nso much time trying to solve problems\n\n560\n00:10:20,710 --> 00:10:20,720\nso much time trying to solve problems\n \n\n561\n00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,150\nso much time trying to solve problems\nyou don't have yet that you're going to\n\n562\n00:10:22,150 --> 00:10:22,160\nyou don't have yet that you're going to\n \n\n563\n00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,710\nyou don't have yet that you're going to\nmiss out on all the benefits of being\n\n564\n00:10:23,710 --> 00:10:23,720\nmiss out on all the benefits of being\n \n\n565\n00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,750\nmiss out on all the benefits of being\nable to just look at all your users and\n\n566\n00:10:25,750 --> 00:10:25,760\nable to just look at all your users and\n \n\n567\n00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,550\nable to just look at all your users and\nsee who they are and talk to them right\n\n568\n00:10:27,550 --> 00:10:27,560\nsee who they are and talk to them right\n \n\n569\n00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:29,590\nsee who they are and talk to them right\nso you need to be scale appropriate and\n\n570\n00:10:29,590 --> 00:10:29,600\nso you need to be scale appropriate and\n \n\n571\n00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,710\nso you need to be scale appropriate and\nkind of be looking\n\n572\n00:10:31,710 --> 00:10:31,720\nkind of be looking\n \n\n573\n00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,030\nkind of be looking\nahead another way software can get\n\n574\n00:10:34,030 --> 00:10:34,040\nahead another way software can get\n \n\n575\n00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,310\nahead another way software can get\ncomplicated is with leaky abstractions\n\n576\n00:10:36,310 --> 00:10:36,320\ncomplicated is with leaky abstractions\n \n\n577\n00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,790\ncomplicated is with leaky abstractions\nand so here we have a platform that's a\n\n578\n00:10:37,790 --> 00:10:37,800\nand so here we have a platform that's a\n \n\n579\n00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,670\nand so here we have a platform that's a\nlittle bit skewed um and so complexity\n\n580\n00:10:40,670 --> 00:10:40,680\nlittle bit skewed um and so complexity\n \n\n581\n00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:43,110\nlittle bit skewed um and so complexity\ncan kind of Bubble Up from under the\n\n582\n00:10:43,110 --> 00:10:43,120\ncan kind of Bubble Up from under the\n \n\n583\n00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,829\ncan kind of Bubble Up from under the\nwater line through these imperfect\n\n584\n00:10:44,829 --> 00:10:44,839\nwater line through these imperfect\n \n\n585\n00:10:44,839 --> 00:10:47,350\nwater line through these imperfect\nextractions abstractions this is how you\n\n586\n00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:47,360\nextractions abstractions this is how you\n \n\n587\n00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,389\nextractions abstractions this is how you\ncopy a string it's a nice handmade\n\n588\n00:10:49,389 --> 00:10:49,399\ncopy a string it's a nice handmade\n \n\n589\n00:10:49,399 --> 00:10:51,269\ncopy a string it's a nice handmade\nlowlevel this is an exerp from carigan\n\n590\n00:10:51,269 --> 00:10:51,279\nlowlevel this is an exerp from carigan\n \n\n591\n00:10:51,279 --> 00:10:53,670\nlowlevel this is an exerp from carigan\nand Richie 1988 second edition the\n\n592\n00:10:53,670 --> 00:10:53,680\nand Richie 1988 second edition the\n \n\n593\n00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:55,430\nand Richie 1988 second edition the\nprogramming language and this book was\n\n594\n00:10:55,430 --> 00:10:55,440\nprogramming language and this book was\n \n\n595\n00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,430\nprogramming language and this book was\nsuch a revelation for me like how it\n\n596\n00:10:57,430 --> 00:10:57,440\nsuch a revelation for me like how it\n \n\n597\n00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,069\nsuch a revelation for me like how it\nshowed me the way colonel uh functions\n\n598\n00:11:00,069 --> 00:11:00,079\nshowed me the way colonel uh functions\n \n\n599\n00:11:00,079 --> 00:11:01,230\nshowed me the way colonel uh functions\nwere really\n\n600\n00:11:01,230 --> 00:11:01,240\nwere really\n \n\n601\n00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,990\nwere really\nimplemented no I'm just kidding they're\n\n602\n00:11:02,990 --> 00:11:03,000\nimplemented no I'm just kidding they're\n \n\n603\n00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:04,670\nimplemented no I'm just kidding they're\nnot really implemented like this and\n\n604\n00:11:04,670 --> 00:11:04,680\nnot really implemented like this and\n \n\n605\n00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:06,509\nnot really implemented like this and\nthey say here that this is how you know\n\n606\n00:11:06,509 --> 00:11:06,519\nthey say here that this is how you know\n \n\n607\n00:11:06,519 --> 00:11:09,150\nthey say here that this is how you know\na c programmer would prefer to write\n\n608\n00:11:09,150 --> 00:11:09,160\na c programmer would prefer to write\n \n\n609\n00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,269\na c programmer would prefer to write\nstring copy the C programmer in question\n\n610\n00:11:12,269 --> 00:11:12,279\nstring copy the C programmer in question\n \n\n611\n00:11:12,279 --> 00:11:13,710\nstring copy the C programmer in question\nhas never forgotten to null terminate a\n\n612\n00:11:13,710 --> 00:11:13,720\nhas never forgotten to null terminate a\n \n\n613\n00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,629\nhas never forgotten to null terminate a\nstring I see um but this is how string\n\n614\n00:11:16,629 --> 00:11:16,639\nstring I see um but this is how string\n \n\n615\n00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:20,190\nstring I see um but this is how string\ncopy is actually implemented as of 2022\n\n616\n00:11:20,190 --> 00:11:20,200\ncopy is actually implemented as of 2022\n \n\n617\n00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,750\ncopy is actually implemented as of 2022\nfor Alpha in uh in Linux and actually\n\n618\n00:11:23,750 --> 00:11:23,760\nfor Alpha in uh in Linux and actually\n \n\n619\n00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:24,990\nfor Alpha in uh in Linux and actually\nthis isn't how string copy is\n\n620\n00:11:24,990 --> 00:11:25,000\nthis isn't how string copy is\n \n\n621\n00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,470\nthis isn't how string copy is\nimplemented this is like one page of\n\n622\n00:11:27,470 --> 00:11:27,480\nimplemented this is like one page of\n \n\n623\n00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,110\nimplemented this is like one page of\nassembler uh there's like 300 lines of\n\n624\n00:11:30,110 --> 00:11:30,120\nassembler uh there's like 300 lines of\n \n\n625\n00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,230\nassembler uh there's like 300 lines of\nassembly and really importantly and and\n\n626\n00:11:33,230 --> 00:11:33,240\nassembly and really importantly and and\n \n\n627\n00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,750\nassembly and really importantly and and\nintriguingly although the interface\n\n628\n00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:35,760\nintriguingly although the interface\n \n\n629\n00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,030\nintriguingly although the interface\nRemains the Same modern CPU\n\n630\n00:11:38,030 --> 00:11:38,040\nRemains the Same modern CPU\n \n\n631\n00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,110\nRemains the Same modern CPU\narchitectures have so many more\n\n632\n00:11:40,110 --> 00:11:40,120\narchitectures have so many more\n \n\n633\n00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,670\narchitectures have so many more\nconstraints around memory alignment and\n\n634\n00:11:42,670 --> 00:11:42,680\nconstraints around memory alignment and\n \n\n635\n00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:44,269\nconstraints around memory alignment and\neverything else that although the\n\n636\n00:11:44,269 --> 00:11:44,279\neverything else that although the\n \n\n637\n00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:46,069\neverything else that although the\ninterface is preserved you can pass any\n\n638\n00:11:46,069 --> 00:11:46,079\ninterface is preserved you can pass any\n \n\n639\n00:11:46,079 --> 00:11:48,790\ninterface is preserved you can pass any\npointers in and get values back the kind\n\n640\n00:11:48,790 --> 00:11:48,800\npointers in and get values back the kind\n \n\n641\n00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,150\npointers in and get values back the kind\nof performance characteristics of like\n\n642\n00:11:51,150 --> 00:11:51,160\nof performance characteristics of like\n \n\n643\n00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,990\nof performance characteristics of like\ndoing an unaligned versus an aligned\n\n644\n00:11:52,990 --> 00:11:53,000\ndoing an unaligned versus an aligned\n \n\n645\n00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,949\ndoing an unaligned versus an aligned\nstring copy will be dramatically\n\n646\n00:11:56,949 --> 00:11:56,959\nstring copy will be dramatically\n \n\n647\n00:11:56,959 --> 00:11:59,870\nstring copy will be dramatically\ndifferent and so complexity here right\n\n648\n00:11:59,870 --> 00:11:59,880\ndifferent and so complexity here right\n \n\n649\n00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:01,790\ndifferent and so complexity here right\nlike I think we can kind of call this a\n\n650\n00:12:01,790 --> 00:12:01,800\nlike I think we can kind of call this a\n \n\n651\n00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,350\nlike I think we can kind of call this a\nwin right like we've got this\n\n652\n00:12:03,350 --> 00:12:03,360\nwin right like we've got this\n \n\n653\n00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,310\nwin right like we've got this\nsuperpowered computer under the hood now\n\n654\n00:12:05,310 --> 00:12:05,320\nsuperpowered computer under the hood now\n \n\n655\n00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:06,829\nsuperpowered computer under the hood now\nbut it still kind of feels like that old\n\n656\n00:12:06,829 --> 00:12:06,839\nbut it still kind of feels like that old\n \n\n657\n00:12:06,839 --> 00:12:09,910\nbut it still kind of feels like that old\ngalap they were running in 1988 you know\n\n658\n00:12:09,910 --> 00:12:09,920\ngalap they were running in 1988 you know\n \n\n659\n00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,430\ngalap they were running in 1988 you know\nand like that's cool that that it works\n\n660\n00:12:12,430 --> 00:12:12,440\nand like that's cool that that it works\n \n\n661\n00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,670\nand like that's cool that that it works\nbut in a sense this API that's so simple\n\n662\n00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:16,680\nbut in a sense this API that's so simple\n \n\n663\n00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:18,910\nbut in a sense this API that's so simple\nis actually undermining the value of the\n\n664\n00:12:18,910 --> 00:12:18,920\nis actually undermining the value of the\n \n\n665\n00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,350\nis actually undermining the value of the\nsystem and there's a lot of magic\n\n666\n00:12:21,350 --> 00:12:21,360\nsystem and there's a lot of magic\n \n\n667\n00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,030\nsystem and there's a lot of magic\nhappening to kind of hide this and so I\n\n668\n00:12:24,030 --> 00:12:24,040\nhappening to kind of hide this and so I\n \n\n669\n00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,470\nhappening to kind of hide this and so I\nfeel very mixed about this because on\n\n670\n00:12:25,470 --> 00:12:25,480\nfeel very mixed about this because on\n \n\n671\n00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,949\nfeel very mixed about this because on\nthe one hand you know it's sort of like\n\n672\n00:12:26,949 --> 00:12:26,959\nthe one hand you know it's sort of like\n \n\n673\n00:12:26,959 --> 00:12:28,910\nthe one hand you know it's sort of like\nSQL databases where like you can add an\n\n674\n00:12:28,910 --> 00:12:28,920\nSQL databases where like you can add an\n \n\n675\n00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,710\nSQL databases where like you can add an\nIND and change nothing else and things\n\n676\n00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:30,720\nIND and change nothing else and things\n \n\n677\n00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,949\nIND and change nothing else and things\nget faster but there's like a really\n\n678\n00:12:33,949 --> 00:12:33,959\nget faster but there's like a really\n \n\n679\n00:12:33,959 --> 00:12:36,949\nget faster but there's like a really\nimportant subtle like lie that's being\n\n680\n00:12:36,949 --> 00:12:36,959\nimportant subtle like lie that's being\n \n\n681\n00:12:36,959 --> 00:12:39,310\nimportant subtle like lie that's being\ntold here but maybe this is good and\n\n682\n00:12:39,310 --> 00:12:39,320\ntold here but maybe this is good and\n \n\n683\n00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,110\ntold here but maybe this is good and\nmaybe it's bad this is like a value\n\n684\n00:12:41,110 --> 00:12:41,120\nmaybe it's bad this is like a value\n \n\n685\n00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,949\nmaybe it's bad this is like a value\njudgment kind of question and whether\n\n686\n00:12:43,949 --> 00:12:43,959\njudgment kind of question and whether\n \n\n687\n00:12:43,959 --> 00:12:45,230\njudgment kind of question and whether\nyou understand this is happening could\n\n688\n00:12:45,230 --> 00:12:45,240\nyou understand this is happening could\n \n\n689\n00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,990\nyou understand this is happening could\nbe completely irrelevant or it could be\n\n690\n00:12:46,990 --> 00:12:47,000\nbe completely irrelevant or it could be\n \n\n691\n00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,310\nbe completely irrelevant or it could be\nthe difference between the success and\n\n692\n00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:48,320\nthe difference between the success and\n \n\n693\n00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,590\nthe difference between the success and\nfailure of a\n\n694\n00:12:50,590 --> 00:12:50,600\nfailure of a\n \n\n695\n00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,470\nfailure of a\nproject okay so these are kind of like\n\n696\n00:12:55,470 --> 00:12:55,480\nproject okay so these are kind of like\n \n\n697\n00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,509\nproject okay so these are kind of like\ntechnical complexities that come in I\n\n698\n00:12:58,509 --> 00:12:58,519\ntechnical complexities that come in I\n \n\n699\n00:12:58,519 --> 00:13:00,790\ntechnical complexities that come in I\nwant to talk about other sources of\n\n700\n00:13:00,790 --> 00:13:00,800\nwant to talk about other sources of\n \n\n701\n00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,509\nwant to talk about other sources of\ncomplexity different kinds of complexity\n\n702\n00:13:03,509 --> 00:13:03,519\ncomplexity different kinds of complexity\n \n\n703\n00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:05,629\ncomplexity different kinds of complexity\nand one really big source of complexity\n\n704\n00:13:05,629 --> 00:13:05,639\nand one really big source of complexity\n \n\n705\n00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:07,550\nand one really big source of complexity\nin my projects maybe your smarter than\n\n706\n00:13:07,550 --> 00:13:07,560\nin my projects maybe your smarter than\n \n\n707\n00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:09,550\nin my projects maybe your smarter than\nme and that's cool uh but it's when you\n\n708\n00:13:09,550 --> 00:13:09,560\nme and that's cool uh but it's when you\n \n\n709\n00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:11,550\nme and that's cool uh but it's when you\nhave a gap between the problem you think\n\n710\n00:13:11,550 --> 00:13:11,560\nhave a gap between the problem you think\n \n\n711\n00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:13,750\nhave a gap between the problem you think\nyou have or the problem you used to have\n\n712\n00:13:13,750 --> 00:13:13,760\nyou have or the problem you used to have\n \n\n713\n00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,710\nyou have or the problem you used to have\nand the problem you have right now and\n\n714\n00:13:15,710 --> 00:13:15,720\nand the problem you have right now and\n \n\n715\n00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,150\nand the problem you have right now and\nagain we're going to use a toy example\n\n716\n00:13:17,150 --> 00:13:17,160\nagain we're going to use a toy example\n \n\n717\n00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,230\nagain we're going to use a toy example\nto illustrate this so you've got a users\n\n718\n00:13:19,230 --> 00:13:19,240\nto illustrate this so you've got a users\n \n\n719\n00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,670\nto illustrate this so you've got a users\ntable just same app as before and you\n\n720\n00:13:22,670 --> 00:13:22,680\ntable just same app as before and you\n \n\n721\n00:13:22,680 --> 00:13:23,949\ntable just same app as before and you\nknow your users there's a bunch of\n\n722\n00:13:23,949 --> 00:13:23,959\nknow your users there's a bunch of\n \n\n723\n00:13:23,959 --> 00:13:25,389\nknow your users there's a bunch of\nfields you got a first name and a last\n\n724\n00:13:25,389 --> 00:13:25,399\nfields you got a first name and a last\n \n\n725\n00:13:25,399 --> 00:13:26,470\nfields you got a first name and a last\nname and how do you get the first name\n\n726\n00:13:26,470 --> 00:13:26,480\nname and how do you get the first name\n \n\n727\n00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,110\nname and how do you get the first name\nand the last name it's\n\n728\n00:13:28,110 --> 00:13:28,120\nand the last name it's\n \n\n729\n00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,750\nand the last name it's\neasy guys you just split on a\n\n730\n00:13:32,750 --> 00:13:32,760\neasy guys you just split on a\n \n\n731\n00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,910\neasy guys you just split on a\nspace as a van\n\n732\n00:13:36,910 --> 00:13:36,920\n\n \n\n733\n00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,590\n\nhardenberg uh you can see how this might\n\n734\n00:13:40,590 --> 00:13:40,600\nhardenberg uh you can see how this might\n \n\n735\n00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,990\nhardenberg uh you can see how this might\nget you in trouble and in fact on my\n\n736\n00:13:41,990 --> 00:13:42,000\nget you in trouble and in fact on my\n \n\n737\n00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,110\nget you in trouble and in fact on my\nCalifornia driver's license it said that\n\n738\n00:13:44,110 --> 00:13:44,120\nCalifornia driver's license it said that\n \n\n739\n00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,110\nCalifornia driver's license it said that\nmy middle name was van for many\n\n740\n00:13:47,110 --> 00:13:47,120\nmy middle name was van for many\n \n\n741\n00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,189\nmy middle name was van for many\nyears and the problem here is that the\n\n742\n00:13:50,189 --> 00:13:50,199\nyears and the problem here is that the\n \n\n743\n00:13:50,199 --> 00:13:53,069\nyears and the problem here is that the\nmodel that you have for the problem\n\n744\n00:13:53,069 --> 00:13:53,079\nmodel that you have for the problem\n \n\n745\n00:13:53,079 --> 00:13:56,269\nmodel that you have for the problem\ndoesn't actually map the problem domain\n\n746\n00:13:56,269 --> 00:13:56,279\ndoesn't actually map the problem domain\n \n\n747\n00:13:56,279 --> 00:13:59,230\ndoesn't actually map the problem domain\nsuccessfully\n\n748\n00:13:59,230 --> 00:13:59,240\nsuccessfully\n \n\n749\n00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,829\nsuccessfully\nso what do you what do you\n\n750\n00:14:01,829 --> 00:14:01,839\nso what do you what do you\n \n\n751\n00:14:01,839 --> 00:14:03,749\nso what do you what do you\ndo right and there are lots of things\n\n752\n00:14:03,749 --> 00:14:03,759\ndo right and there are lots of things\n \n\n753\n00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:05,310\ndo right and there are lots of things\nyou can do you can rewrite from scratch\n\n754\n00:14:05,310 --> 00:14:05,320\nyou can do you can rewrite from scratch\n \n\n755\n00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,590\nyou can do you can rewrite from scratch\nyou can patch around it and actually\n\n756\n00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:07,600\nyou can patch around it and actually\n \n\n757\n00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,389\nyou can patch around it and actually\njust as an aside for everybody in the\n\n758\n00:14:09,389 --> 00:14:09,399\njust as an aside for everybody in the\n \n\n759\n00:14:09,399 --> 00:14:12,910\njust as an aside for everybody in the\nroom the w3c has a wonderful um essay\n\n760\n00:14:12,910 --> 00:14:12,920\nroom the w3c has a wonderful um essay\n \n\n761\n00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,310\nroom the w3c has a wonderful um essay\nabout personal names around the world\n\n762\n00:14:15,310 --> 00:14:15,320\nabout personal names around the world\n \n\n763\n00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,110\nabout personal names around the world\nand just you know if you take one like\n\n764\n00:14:17,110 --> 00:14:17,120\nand just you know if you take one like\n \n\n765\n00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,350\nand just you know if you take one like\nlittle thing from this talk um don't use\n\n766\n00:14:19,350 --> 00:14:19,360\nlittle thing from this talk um don't use\n \n\n767\n00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,910\nlittle thing from this talk um don't use\nfirst name and last name don't use\n\n768\n00:14:20,910 --> 00:14:20,920\nfirst name and last name don't use\n \n\n769\n00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,829\nfirst name and last name don't use\nfamily name people's family names aren't\n\n770\n00:14:22,829 --> 00:14:22,839\nfamily name people's family names aren't\n \n\n771\n00:14:22,839 --> 00:14:24,069\nfamily name people's family names aren't\naccurate some people have them and\n\n772\n00:14:24,069 --> 00:14:24,079\naccurate some people have them and\n \n\n773\n00:14:24,079 --> 00:14:25,910\naccurate some people have them and\nothers don't uh what you do is you have\n\n774\n00:14:25,910 --> 00:14:25,920\nothers don't uh what you do is you have\n \n\n775\n00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,670\nothers don't uh what you do is you have\none field that is you know what is the\n\n776\n00:14:27,670 --> 00:14:27,680\none field that is you know what is the\n \n\n777\n00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,870\none field that is you know what is the\nfull name and then the other one is if\n\n778\n00:14:29,870 --> 00:14:29,880\nfull name and then the other one is if\n \n\n779\n00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,350\nfull name and then the other one is if\nyou need it what should we call you um\n\n780\n00:14:32,350 --> 00:14:32,360\nyou need it what should we call you um\n \n\n781\n00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,550\nyou need it what should we call you um\nit's like a much better\n\n782\n00:14:34,550 --> 00:14:34,560\nit's like a much better\n \n\n783\n00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,509\nit's like a much better\nmodel um also\n\n784\n00:14:38,509 --> 00:14:38,519\nmodel um also\n \n\n785\n00:14:38,519 --> 00:14:40,870\nmodel um also\nUnicode I know that's its own set of\n\n786\n00:14:40,870 --> 00:14:40,880\nUnicode I know that's its own set of\n \n\n787\n00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,710\nUnicode I know that's its own set of\ncomplexity but uh and so you know\n\n788\n00:14:44,710 --> 00:14:44,720\ncomplexity but uh and so you know\n \n\n789\n00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,389\ncomplexity but uh and so you know\nthere's only so many things you can do\n\n790\n00:14:46,389 --> 00:14:46,399\nthere's only so many things you can do\n \n\n791\n00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:48,230\nthere's only so many things you can do\nwhen you have this problem right and\n\n792\n00:14:48,230 --> 00:14:48,240\nwhen you have this problem right and\n \n\n793\n00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,870\nwhen you have this problem right and\nlike I had a really specific concrete\n\n794\n00:14:49,870 --> 00:14:49,880\nlike I had a really specific concrete\n \n\n795\n00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,430\nlike I had a really specific concrete\nexample of this in a distributed system\n\n796\n00:14:51,430 --> 00:14:51,440\nexample of this in a distributed system\n \n\n797\n00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,310\nexample of this in a distributed system\nrecently where like I had a mental model\n\n798\n00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:54,320\nrecently where like I had a mental model\n \n\n799\n00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,069\nrecently where like I had a mental model\nof how the system behaved and my tests\n\n800\n00:14:57,069 --> 00:14:57,079\nof how the system behaved and my tests\n \n\n801\n00:14:57,079 --> 00:14:59,150\nof how the system behaved and my tests\ndemonstrated that it behaved that way\n\n802\n00:14:59,150 --> 00:14:59,160\ndemonstrated that it behaved that way\n \n\n803\n00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:00,629\ndemonstrated that it behaved that way\nand then in my production environment it\n\n804\n00:15:00,629 --> 00:15:00,639\nand then in my production environment it\n \n\n805\n00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:02,230\nand then in my production environment it\nbehaved completely\n\n806\n00:15:02,230 --> 00:15:02,240\nbehaved completely\n \n\n807\n00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,870\nbehaved completely\ndifferently because of behaviors that\n\n808\n00:15:04,870 --> 00:15:04,880\ndifferently because of behaviors that\n \n\n809\n00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,150\ndifferently because of behaviors that\nwere not modeled by my understanding of\n\n810\n00:15:07,150 --> 00:15:07,160\nwere not modeled by my understanding of\n \n\n811\n00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,269\nwere not modeled by my understanding of\nthe problem and this is part of why\n\n812\n00:15:09,269 --> 00:15:09,279\nthe problem and this is part of why\n \n\n813\n00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:11,189\nthe problem and this is part of why\ndistributed systems are so prone to this\n\n814\n00:15:11,189 --> 00:15:11,199\ndistributed systems are so prone to this\n \n\n815\n00:15:11,199 --> 00:15:14,230\ndistributed systems are so prone to this\nis because there's so many new free\n\n816\n00:15:14,230 --> 00:15:14,240\nis because there's so many new free\n \n\n817\n00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,350\nis because there's so many new free\nvariables and and like articulation\n\n818\n00:15:16,350 --> 00:15:16,360\nvariables and and like articulation\n \n\n819\n00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,829\nvariables and and like articulation\npoints where things can be fast or slow\n\n820\n00:15:18,829 --> 00:15:18,839\npoints where things can be fast or slow\n \n\n821\n00:15:18,839 --> 00:15:21,069\npoints where things can be fast or slow\nor where they can fail or you know\n\n822\n00:15:21,069 --> 00:15:21,079\nor where they can fail or you know\n \n\n823\n00:15:21,079 --> 00:15:22,590\nor where they can fail or you know\narrive out of order and all these kinds\n\n824\n00:15:22,590 --> 00:15:22,600\narrive out of order and all these kinds\n \n\n825\n00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,470\narrive out of order and all these kinds\nof things and so when you have these\n\n826\n00:15:24,470 --> 00:15:24,480\nof things and so when you have these\n \n\n827\n00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,790\nof things and so when you have these\nkinds of model reality gaps you have to\n\n828\n00:15:26,790 --> 00:15:26,800\nkinds of model reality gaps you have to\n \n\n829\n00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,790\nkinds of model reality gaps you have to\nbridge them somehow and so what can you\n\n830\n00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:28,800\nbridge them somehow and so what can you\n \n\n831\n00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,430\nbridge them somehow and so what can you\ndo well you can fix the problem you can\n\n832\n00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:30,440\ndo well you can fix the problem you can\n \n\n833\n00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,150\ndo well you can fix the problem you can\nimprove your understanding and rewrite\n\n834\n00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:32,160\nimprove your understanding and rewrite\n \n\n835\n00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,230\nimprove your understanding and rewrite\neverything and like when you can do that\n\n836\n00:15:35,230 --> 00:15:35,240\neverything and like when you can do that\n \n\n837\n00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,110\neverything and like when you can do that\nit's probably\n\n838\n00:15:38,110 --> 00:15:38,120\nit's probably\n \n\n839\n00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,949\nit's probably\nbest you can't really always do that\n\n840\n00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:40,959\nbest you can't really always do that\n \n\n841\n00:15:40,959 --> 00:15:42,829\nbest you can't really always do that\nthough and more to the point you may\n\n842\n00:15:42,829 --> 00:15:42,839\nthough and more to the point you may\n \n\n843\n00:15:42,839 --> 00:15:44,509\nthough and more to the point you may\nstill not actually you could see the\n\n844\n00:15:44,509 --> 00:15:44,519\nstill not actually you could see the\n \n\n845\n00:15:44,519 --> 00:15:46,309\nstill not actually you could see the\nproblem but you may still not actually\n\n846\n00:15:46,309 --> 00:15:46,319\nproblem but you may still not actually\n \n\n847\n00:15:46,319 --> 00:15:48,509\nproblem but you may still not actually\nunderstand the solution right and so\n\n848\n00:15:48,509 --> 00:15:48,519\nunderstand the solution right and so\n \n\n849\n00:15:48,519 --> 00:15:49,949\nunderstand the solution right and so\nwhat can you do well you can hack around\n\n850\n00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:49,959\nwhat can you do well you can hack around\n \n\n851\n00:15:49,959 --> 00:15:52,309\nwhat can you do well you can hack around\nit right like I've put van hardenberg\n\n852\n00:15:52,309 --> 00:15:52,319\nit right like I've put van hardenberg\n \n\n853\n00:15:52,319 --> 00:15:54,629\nit right like I've put van hardenberg\ninto a lot of text boxes without a space\n\n854\n00:15:54,629 --> 00:15:54,639\ninto a lot of text boxes without a space\n \n\n855\n00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:56,629\ninto a lot of text boxes without a space\nin it and you know where the first\n\n856\n00:15:56,629 --> 00:15:56,639\nin it and you know where the first\n \n\n857\n00:15:56,639 --> 00:15:58,230\nin it and you know where the first\nletter is capitalized and the H is\n\n858\n00:15:58,230 --> 00:15:58,240\nletter is capitalized and the H is\n \n\n859\n00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,790\nletter is capitalized and the H is\nlowercase and that's not how I spell my\n\n860\n00:15:59,790 --> 00:15:59,800\nlowercase and that's not how I spell my\n \n\n861\n00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,189\nlowercase and that's not how I spell my\nname but it is how a lot of systems\n\n862\n00:16:01,189 --> 00:16:01,199\nname but it is how a lot of systems\n \n\n863\n00:16:01,199 --> 00:16:03,269\nname but it is how a lot of systems\nspell my name you know or you can ignore\n\n864\n00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:03,279\nspell my name you know or you can ignore\n \n\n865\n00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:05,550\nspell my name you know or you can ignore\nthe problem right like maybe it's fine\n\n866\n00:16:05,550 --> 00:16:05,560\nthe problem right like maybe it's fine\n \n\n867\n00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,269\nthe problem right like maybe it's fine\nand like genuinely it could be fine for\n\n868\n00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:07,279\nand like genuinely it could be fine for\n \n\n869\n00:16:07,279 --> 00:16:08,990\nand like genuinely it could be fine for\nyour use case you're just like well I\n\n870\n00:16:08,990 --> 00:16:09,000\nyour use case you're just like well I\n \n\n871\n00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,189\nyour use case you're just like well I\nguess you know that Peter guy can suck\n\n872\n00:16:11,189 --> 00:16:11,199\nguess you know that Peter guy can suck\n \n\n873\n00:16:11,199 --> 00:16:12,350\nguess you know that Peter guy can suck\nit he'll deal with having his name\n\n874\n00:16:12,350 --> 00:16:12,360\nit he'll deal with having his name\n \n\n875\n00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,110\nit he'll deal with having his name\nspelled wrong and I do you know it's\n\n876\n00:16:16,110 --> 00:16:16,120\nspelled wrong and I do you know it's\n \n\n877\n00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:17,389\nspelled wrong and I do you know it's\nthese are options that you have and\n\n878\n00:16:17,389 --> 00:16:17,399\nthese are options that you have and\n \n\n879\n00:16:17,399 --> 00:16:19,629\nthese are options that you have and\nthere's like a great you know like meme\n\n880\n00:16:19,629 --> 00:16:19,639\nthere's like a great you know like meme\n \n\n881\n00:16:19,639 --> 00:16:21,470\nthere's like a great you know like meme\nseries out there on the internet lies\n\n882\n00:16:21,470 --> 00:16:21,480\nseries out there on the internet lies\n \n\n883\n00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,670\nseries out there on the internet lies\nprogrammers believe about pretty much\n\n884\n00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:23,680\nprogrammers believe about pretty much\n \n\n885\n00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,269\nprogrammers believe about pretty much\nanything like all time zones are 1 hour\n\n886\n00:16:26,269 --> 00:16:26,279\nanything like all time zones are 1 hour\n \n\n887\n00:16:26,279 --> 00:16:28,710\nanything like all time zones are 1 hour\napart uh half an hour later in Newan\n\n888\n00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:28,720\napart uh half an hour later in Newan\n \n\n889\n00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,430\napart uh half an hour later in Newan\nland\n\n890\n00:16:30,430 --> 00:16:30,440\nland\n \n\n891\n00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,470\nland\nand so I\n\n892\n00:16:31,470 --> 00:16:31,480\nand so I\n \n\n893\n00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,790\nand so I\nthink this is a this is a very\n\n894\n00:16:33,790 --> 00:16:33,800\nthink this is a this is a very\n \n\n895\n00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,590\nthink this is a this is a very\nfundamental source of complexity but\n\n896\n00:16:35,590 --> 00:16:35,600\nfundamental source of complexity but\n \n\n897\n00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,749\nfundamental source of complexity but\nwhere things get really bad is when your\n\n898\n00:16:38,749 --> 00:16:38,759\nwhere things get really bad is when your\n \n\n899\n00:16:38,759 --> 00:16:41,350\nwhere things get really bad is when your\nproblems start to multiply off each\n\n900\n00:16:41,350 --> 00:16:41,360\nproblems start to multiply off each\n \n\n901\n00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,389\nproblems start to multiply off each\nother and this of course is you know\n\n902\n00:16:44,389 --> 00:16:44,399\nother and this of course is you know\n \n\n903\n00:16:44,399 --> 00:16:45,910\nother and this of course is you know\nwhere you have kind of like compound\n\n904\n00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:45,920\nwhere you have kind of like compound\n \n\n905\n00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,189\nwhere you have kind of like compound\ninterest on complexity so what happens\n\n906\n00:16:49,189 --> 00:16:49,199\ninterest on complexity so what happens\n \n\n907\n00:16:49,199 --> 00:16:51,749\ninterest on complexity so what happens\nif your problems um dimensionalize\n\n908\n00:16:51,749 --> 00:16:51,759\nif your problems um dimensionalize\n \n\n909\n00:16:51,759 --> 00:16:54,389\nif your problems um dimensionalize\nagainst each other so again imagine this\n\n910\n00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:54,399\nagainst each other so again imagine this\n \n\n911\n00:16:54,399 --> 00:16:55,949\nagainst each other so again imagine this\nweb application you've got a bunch of\n\n912\n00:16:55,949 --> 00:16:55,959\nweb application you've got a bunch of\n \n\n913\n00:16:55,959 --> 00:16:57,790\nweb application you've got a bunch of\ndifferent browsers to support you've got\n\n914\n00:16:57,790 --> 00:16:57,800\ndifferent browsers to support you've got\n \n\n915\n00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,509\ndifferent browsers to support you've got\na bunch of different runtime\n\n916\n00:16:59,509 --> 00:16:59,519\na bunch of different runtime\n \n\n917\n00:16:59,519 --> 00:17:01,509\na bunch of different runtime\nenvironments to support different screen\n\n918\n00:17:01,509 --> 00:17:01,519\nenvironments to support different screen\n \n\n919\n00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:03,749\nenvironments to support different screen\nsizes Network speeds different Os or\n\n920\n00:17:03,749 --> 00:17:03,759\nsizes Network speeds different Os or\n \n\n921\n00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:06,309\nsizes Network speeds different Os or\nbrowser versions and so if you want to\n\n922\n00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:06,319\nbrowser versions and so if you want to\n \n\n923\n00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:08,669\nbrowser versions and so if you want to\nactually understand what's happening you\n\n924\n00:17:08,669 --> 00:17:08,679\nactually understand what's happening you\n \n\n925\n00:17:08,679 --> 00:17:10,390\nactually understand what's happening you\nknow all of these things multiply\n\n926\n00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:10,400\nknow all of these things multiply\n \n\n927\n00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,549\nknow all of these things multiply\nagainst each other right and so you\n\n928\n00:17:12,549 --> 00:17:12,559\nagainst each other right and so you\n \n\n929\n00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:14,470\nagainst each other right and so you\ndon't just have one runtime environment\n\n930\n00:17:14,470 --> 00:17:14,480\ndon't just have one runtime environment\n \n\n931\n00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:15,949\ndon't just have one runtime environment\nyou might have one codebase but you have\n\n932\n00:17:15,949 --> 00:17:15,959\nyou might have one codebase but you have\n \n\n933\n00:17:15,959 --> 00:17:18,750\nyou might have one codebase but you have\nlots of different contexts so how can\n\n934\n00:17:18,750 --> 00:17:18,760\nlots of different contexts so how can\n \n\n935\n00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,710\nlots of different contexts so how can\nyou know that you actually have correct\n\n936\n00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:20,720\nyou know that you actually have correct\n \n\n937\n00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,549\nyou know that you actually have correct\nfunctioning code because you know the\n\n938\n00:17:22,549 --> 00:17:22,559\nfunctioning code because you know the\n \n\n939\n00:17:22,559 --> 00:17:24,110\nfunctioning code because you know the\nold joke about Docker like well it\n\n940\n00:17:24,110 --> 00:17:24,120\nold joke about Docker like well it\n \n\n941\n00:17:24,120 --> 00:17:25,429\nold joke about Docker like well it\nworked on my computer well I guess we'll\n\n942\n00:17:25,429 --> 00:17:25,439\nworked on my computer well I guess we'll\n \n\n943\n00:17:25,439 --> 00:17:27,309\nworked on my computer well I guess we'll\nship your computer well even that\n\n944\n00:17:27,309 --> 00:17:27,319\nship your computer well even that\n \n\n945\n00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:29,029\nship your computer well even that\ndoesn't really work because once you get\n\n946\n00:17:29,029 --> 00:17:29,039\ndoesn't really work because once you get\n \n\n947\n00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:30,029\ndoesn't really work because once you get\nout into the real world there's\n\n948\n00:17:30,029 --> 00:17:30,039\nout into the real world there's\n \n\n949\n00:17:30,039 --> 00:17:31,990\nout into the real world there's\ndifferent memory you know contexts or\n\n950\n00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:32,000\ndifferent memory you know contexts or\n \n\n951\n00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,590\ndifferent memory you know contexts or\nyou're up against different loads or\n\n952\n00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:33,600\nyou're up against different loads or\n \n\n953\n00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,110\nyou're up against different loads or\nwhatever else right you don't actually\n\n954\n00:17:35,110 --> 00:17:35,120\nwhatever else right you don't actually\n \n\n955\n00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:36,710\nwhatever else right you don't actually\ncontrol the whole\n\n956\n00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:36,720\ncontrol the whole\n \n\n957\n00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:38,630\ncontrol the whole\nenvironment and so this is what really\n\n958\n00:17:38,630 --> 00:17:38,640\nenvironment and so this is what really\n \n\n959\n00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,789\nenvironment and so this is what really\nstarts to kill you with complexity right\n\n960\n00:17:40,789 --> 00:17:40,799\nstarts to kill you with complexity right\n \n\n961\n00:17:40,799 --> 00:17:43,669\nstarts to kill you with complexity right\nand it's where all of those smaller\n\n962\n00:17:43,669 --> 00:17:43,679\nand it's where all of those smaller\n \n\n963\n00:17:43,679 --> 00:17:45,789\nand it's where all of those smaller\ninconsistencies play off each other to\n\n964\n00:17:45,789 --> 00:17:45,799\ninconsistencies play off each other to\n \n\n965\n00:17:45,799 --> 00:17:53,909\ninconsistencies play off each other to\ncreate an unknowables\n\n966\n00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:53,919\n\n \n\n967\n00:17:53,919 --> 00:17:56,669\n\nlike you don't use the native apis\n\n968\n00:17:56,669 --> 00:17:56,679\nlike you don't use the native apis\n \n\n969\n00:17:56,679 --> 00:17:58,390\nlike you don't use the native apis\nbecause God help you if you're trying to\n\n970\n00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:58,400\nbecause God help you if you're trying to\n \n\n971\n00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,110\nbecause God help you if you're trying to\nlike figure out how to map all of these\n\n972\n00:18:01,110 --> 00:18:01,120\nlike figure out how to map all of these\n \n\n973\n00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:02,669\nlike figure out how to map all of these\ntotally different environments down to\n\n974\n00:18:02,669 --> 00:18:02,679\ntotally different environments down to\n \n\n975\n00:18:02,679 --> 00:18:05,310\ntotally different environments down to\none consistent thing and like one\n\n976\n00:18:05,310 --> 00:18:05,320\none consistent thing and like one\n \n\n977\n00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,149\none consistent thing and like one\nsolution here is just to only have one\n\n978\n00:18:07,149 --> 00:18:07,159\nsolution here is just to only have one\n \n\n979\n00:18:07,159 --> 00:18:08,830\nsolution here is just to only have one\nthing as best you can and to minimize\n\n980\n00:18:08,830 --> 00:18:08,840\nthing as best you can and to minimize\n \n\n981\n00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:09,710\nthing as best you can and to minimize\nthe difference between those\n\n982\n00:18:09,710 --> 00:18:09,720\nthe difference between those\n \n\n983\n00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,190\nthe difference between those\nenvironments and that's why you see sort\n\n984\n00:18:11,190 --> 00:18:11,200\nenvironments and that's why you see sort\n \n\n985\n00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,789\nenvironments and that's why you see sort\nof like ostensibly lazy electron apps\n\n986\n00:18:13,789 --> 00:18:13,799\nof like ostensibly lazy electron apps\n \n\n987\n00:18:13,799 --> 00:18:16,070\nof like ostensibly lazy electron apps\nfrom big companies because even worse\n\n988\n00:18:16,070 --> 00:18:16,080\nfrom big companies because even worse\n \n\n989\n00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,310\nfrom big companies because even worse\nthan having to support all these\n\n990\n00:18:17,310 --> 00:18:17,320\nthan having to support all these\n \n\n991\n00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,830\nthan having to support all these\ndifferent things is having to coordinate\n\n992\n00:18:18,830 --> 00:18:18,840\ndifferent things is having to coordinate\n \n\n993\n00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,230\ndifferent things is having to coordinate\nall the different people and teams to\n\n994\n00:18:21,230 --> 00:18:21,240\nall the different people and teams to\n \n\n995\n00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,789\nall the different people and teams to\ntry and build features right and we've\n\n996\n00:18:23,789 --> 00:18:23,799\ntry and build features right and we've\n \n\n997\n00:18:23,799 --> 00:18:25,470\ntry and build features right and we've\nall many of us have been there right\n\n998\n00:18:25,470 --> 00:18:25,480\nall many of us have been there right\n \n\n999\n00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,029\nall many of us have been there right\nlike if you have an iOS and an Android\n\n1000\n00:18:27,029 --> 00:18:27,039\nlike if you have an iOS and an Android\n \n\n1001\n00:18:27,039 --> 00:18:28,350\nlike if you have an iOS and an Android\nteam like how do you get them to ship\n\n1002\n00:18:28,350 --> 00:18:28,360\nteam like how do you get them to ship\n \n\n1003\n00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:30,789\nteam like how do you get them to ship\nthe same feuture in the same quarter\n\n1004\n00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:30,799\nthe same feuture in the same quarter\n \n\n1005\n00:18:30,799 --> 00:18:33,510\nthe same feuture in the same quarter\nright it's tough it's\n\n1006\n00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:33,520\nright it's tough it's\n \n\n1007\n00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,390\nright it's tough it's\ntough okay\n\n1008\n00:18:36,390 --> 00:18:36,400\ntough okay\n \n\n1009\n00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,230\ntough okay\nso I hope I've convinced you now um that\n\n1010\n00:18:41,230 --> 00:18:41,240\nso I hope I've convinced you now um that\n \n\n1011\n00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,830\nso I hope I've convinced you now um that\ncomplexity is like a a complex problem\n\n1012\n00:18:44,830 --> 00:18:44,840\ncomplexity is like a a complex problem\n \n\n1013\n00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,190\ncomplexity is like a a complex problem\nitself and that it manifests in a lot of\n\n1014\n00:18:47,190 --> 00:18:47,200\nitself and that it manifests in a lot of\n \n\n1015\n00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,270\nitself and that it manifests in a lot of\ndifferent ways so we're going to change\n\n1016\n00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:49,280\ndifferent ways so we're going to change\n \n\n1017\n00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,950\ndifferent ways so we're going to change\ngears a little bit and talk about seat\n\n1018\n00:18:51,950 --> 00:18:51,960\ngears a little bit and talk about seat\n \n\n1019\n00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,350\ngears a little bit and talk about seat\nbelts and more specifically why seat\n\n1020\n00:18:54,350 --> 00:18:54,360\nbelts and more specifically why seat\n \n\n1021\n00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:56,350\nbelts and more specifically why seat\nbelts don't save\n\n1022\n00:18:56,350 --> 00:18:56,360\nbelts don't save\n \n\n1023\n00:18:56,360 --> 00:18:58,350\nbelts don't save\nlives and I haven't asked risk here\n\n1024\n00:18:58,350 --> 00:18:58,360\nlives and I haven't asked risk here\n \n\n1025\n00:18:58,360 --> 00:18:59,270\nlives and I haven't asked risk here\nbecause this is a little bit of a\n\n1026\n00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:59,280\nbecause this is a little bit of a\n \n\n1027\n00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,990\nbecause this is a little bit of a\ncontroversial um research topic um but\n\n1028\n00:19:02,990 --> 00:19:03,000\ncontroversial um research topic um but\n \n\n1029\n00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,470\ncontroversial um research topic um but\nthe sort of upshot of this is that in at\n\n1030\n00:19:05,470 --> 00:19:05,480\nthe sort of upshot of this is that in at\n \n\n1031\n00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,230\nthe sort of upshot of this is that in at\nleast some studies they found that after\n\n1032\n00:19:07,230 --> 00:19:07,240\nleast some studies they found that after\n \n\n1033\n00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,789\nleast some studies they found that after\nseat belts became mandatory in\n\n1034\n00:19:09,789 --> 00:19:09,799\nseat belts became mandatory in\n \n\n1035\n00:19:09,799 --> 00:19:12,350\nseat belts became mandatory in\ncars uh people still died on the roads\n\n1036\n00:19:12,350 --> 00:19:12,360\ncars uh people still died on the roads\n \n\n1037\n00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:14,750\ncars uh people still died on the roads\nat similar rates and that was really\n\n1038\n00:19:14,750 --> 00:19:14,760\nat similar rates and that was really\n \n\n1039\n00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,149\nat similar rates and that was really\nsurprising because\n\n1040\n00:19:16,149 --> 00:19:16,159\nsurprising because\n \n\n1041\n00:19:16,159 --> 00:19:18,590\nsurprising because\nlike you know seat bels are are a good\n\n1042\n00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:18,600\nlike you know seat bels are are a good\n \n\n1043\n00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,149\nlike you know seat bels are are a good\nidea like they keep you safer in the car\n\n1044\n00:19:21,149 --> 00:19:21,159\nidea like they keep you safer in the car\n \n\n1045\n00:19:21,159 --> 00:19:23,310\nidea like they keep you safer in the car\nand so somebody proposed this idea uh\n\n1046\n00:19:23,310 --> 00:19:23,320\nand so somebody proposed this idea uh\n \n\n1047\n00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,029\nand so somebody proposed this idea uh\ncalled risk\n\n1048\n00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:25,039\ncalled risk\n \n\n1049\n00:19:25,039 --> 00:19:27,070\ncalled risk\nhomeostasis the idea behind risk\n\n1050\n00:19:27,070 --> 00:19:27,080\nhomeostasis the idea behind risk\n \n\n1051\n00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,110\nhomeostasis the idea behind risk\nhomeostasis is that actually we die at a\n\n1052\n00:19:30,110 --> 00:19:30,120\nhomeostasis is that actually we die at a\n \n\n1053\n00:19:30,120 --> 00:19:31,990\nhomeostasis is that actually we die at a\nrate on the road related to how much\n\n1054\n00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:32,000\nrate on the road related to how much\n \n\n1055\n00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,430\nrate on the road related to how much\nrisk we're willing to take and so if you\n\n1056\n00:19:34,430 --> 00:19:34,440\nrisk we're willing to take and so if you\n \n\n1057\n00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,029\nrisk we're willing to take and so if you\nnow have a seat belt and you're driving\n\n1058\n00:19:36,029 --> 00:19:36,039\nnow have a seat belt and you're driving\n \n\n1059\n00:19:36,039 --> 00:19:38,350\nnow have a seat belt and you're driving\na car that's safer you're going to go a\n\n1060\n00:19:38,350 --> 00:19:38,360\na car that's safer you're going to go a\n \n\n1061\n00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:39,870\na car that's safer you're going to go a\nlittle faster and you're going to take\n\n1062\n00:19:39,870 --> 00:19:39,880\nlittle faster and you're going to take\n \n\n1063\n00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,590\nlittle faster and you're going to take\nthe corners a little tighter because you\n\n1064\n00:19:41,590 --> 00:19:41,600\nthe corners a little tighter because you\n \n\n1065\n00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,470\nthe corners a little tighter because you\nfeel better right so the the issue with\n\n1066\n00:19:45,470 --> 00:19:45,480\nfeel better right so the the issue with\n \n\n1067\n00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,710\nfeel better right so the the issue with\nmaking people safer was that they then\n\n1068\n00:19:47,710 --> 00:19:47,720\nmaking people safer was that they then\n \n\n1069\n00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,669\nmaking people safer was that they then\ntook on more risky Behavior conserving\n\n1070\n00:19:50,669 --> 00:19:50,679\ntook on more risky Behavior conserving\n \n\n1071\n00:19:50,679 --> 00:19:53,590\ntook on more risky Behavior conserving\ntheir total risk tolerance and so I\n\n1072\n00:19:53,590 --> 00:19:53,600\ntheir total risk tolerance and so I\n \n\n1073\n00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,669\ntheir total risk tolerance and so I\nthink we see a similar thing in software\n\n1074\n00:19:55,669 --> 00:19:55,679\nthink we see a similar thing in software\n \n\n1075\n00:19:55,679 --> 00:19:57,470\nthink we see a similar thing in software\nright we I call this complexity\n\n1076\n00:19:57,470 --> 00:19:57,480\nright we I call this complexity\n \n\n1077\n00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,950\nright we I call this complexity\nhomeostasis which is to say that if you\n\n1078\n00:19:59,950 --> 00:19:59,960\nhomeostasis which is to say that if you\n \n\n1079\n00:19:59,960 --> 00:20:02,310\nhomeostasis which is to say that if you\nhave kind of a system that's evolving\n\n1080\n00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:02,320\nhave kind of a system that's evolving\n \n\n1081\n00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,070\nhave kind of a system that's evolving\nover time you know everything's fine\n\n1082\n00:20:05,070 --> 00:20:05,080\nover time you know everything's fine\n \n\n1083\n00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,230\nover time you know everything's fine\nwe're going along life is good and then\n\n1084\n00:20:07,230 --> 00:20:07,240\nwe're going along life is good and then\n \n\n1085\n00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,870\nwe're going along life is good and then\nwe add some more things and you know\n\n1086\n00:20:09,870 --> 00:20:09,880\nwe add some more things and you know\n \n\n1087\n00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,870\nwe add some more things and you know\nwe're still happy and then oh oh yeah\n\n1088\n00:20:12,870 --> 00:20:12,880\nwe're still happy and then oh oh yeah\n \n\n1089\n00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,710\nwe're still happy and then oh oh yeah\nnow it's I don't like it\n\n1090\n00:20:14,710 --> 00:20:14,720\nnow it's I don't like it\n \n\n1091\n00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,630\nnow it's I don't like it\nanymore it's not good it feels bad now\n\n1092\n00:20:17,630 --> 00:20:17,640\nanymore it's not good it feels bad now\n \n\n1093\n00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,149\nanymore it's not good it feels bad now\nit's time for that rewrite that we were\n\n1094\n00:20:19,149 --> 00:20:19,159\nit's time for that rewrite that we were\n \n\n1095\n00:20:19,159 --> 00:20:20,870\nit's time for that rewrite that we were\nhearing about right it's time to bring\n\n1096\n00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:20,880\nhearing about right it's time to bring\n \n\n1097\n00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,390\nhearing about right it's time to bring\nthings back\n\n1098\n00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:22,400\nthings back\n \n\n1099\n00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,070\nthings back\nah okay now we can go back to making\n\n1100\n00:20:25,070 --> 00:20:25,080\nah okay now we can go back to making\n \n\n1101\n00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:30,430\nah okay now we can go back to making\nthings complicated again\n\n1102\n00:20:30,430 --> 00:20:30,440\n\n \n\n1103\n00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,390\n\nand so this is kind of like a set point\n\n1104\n00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:32,400\nand so this is kind of like a set point\n \n\n1105\n00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,470\nand so this is kind of like a set point\nso homeostasis is the process where or\n\n1106\n00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:34,480\nso homeostasis is the process where or\n \n\n1107\n00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,029\nso homeostasis is the process where or\nit's any process where you sort of\n\n1108\n00:20:36,029 --> 00:20:36,039\nit's any process where you sort of\n \n\n1109\n00:20:36,039 --> 00:20:38,029\nit's any process where you sort of\nmaintain a set point and it's commonly\n\n1110\n00:20:38,029 --> 00:20:38,039\nmaintain a set point and it's commonly\n \n\n1111\n00:20:38,039 --> 00:20:40,029\nmaintain a set point and it's commonly\nused to talk also about how our bodies\n\n1112\n00:20:40,029 --> 00:20:40,039\nused to talk also about how our bodies\n \n\n1113\n00:20:40,039 --> 00:20:42,390\nused to talk also about how our bodies\nregulate temperature but I think our\n\n1114\n00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:42,400\nregulate temperature but I think our\n \n\n1115\n00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,470\nregulate temperature but I think our\norganizations regulate\n\n1116\n00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:44,480\norganizations regulate\n \n\n1117\n00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,950\norganizations regulate\ncomplexity right and so all of us have\n\n1118\n00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:46,960\ncomplexity right and so all of us have\n \n\n1119\n00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,350\ncomplexity right and so all of us have\ndifferent intuitions and when people\n\n1120\n00:20:48,350 --> 00:20:48,360\ndifferent intuitions and when people\n \n\n1121\n00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:49,830\ndifferent intuitions and when people\ntalk about wanting things to be simple\n\n1122\n00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:49,840\ntalk about wanting things to be simple\n \n\n1123\n00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,270\ntalk about wanting things to be simple\nthere's like an aesthetic preference\n\n1124\n00:20:51,270 --> 00:20:51,280\nthere's like an aesthetic preference\n \n\n1125\n00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,830\nthere's like an aesthetic preference\nhere and different people perceive that\n\n1126\n00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:53,840\nhere and different people perceive that\n \n\n1127\n00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,669\nhere and different people perceive that\nand pursue that\n\n1128\n00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:55,679\nand pursue that\n \n\n1129\n00:20:55,679 --> 00:20:58,710\nand pursue that\ndifferently and like Deen's you know\n\n1130\n00:20:58,710 --> 00:20:58,720\ndifferently and like Deen's you know\n \n\n1131\n00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,230\ndifferently and like Deen's you know\nquest for just the right number of op\n\n1132\n00:21:01,230 --> 00:21:01,240\nquest for just the right number of op\n \n\n1133\n00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:02,830\nquest for just the right number of op\ncodes that we heard about yesterday is a\n\n1134\n00:21:02,830 --> 00:21:02,840\ncodes that we heard about yesterday is a\n \n\n1135\n00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,470\ncodes that we heard about yesterday is a\ngreat example where like in a certain\n\n1136\n00:21:04,470 --> 00:21:04,480\ngreat example where like in a certain\n \n\n1137\n00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,390\ngreat example where like in a certain\nsense you know the correct number of op\n\n1138\n00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:06,400\nsense you know the correct number of op\n \n\n1139\n00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,110\nsense you know the correct number of op\ncodes is one and you could do that if\n\n1140\n00:21:08,110 --> 00:21:08,120\ncodes is one and you could do that if\n \n\n1141\n00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:10,149\ncodes is one and you could do that if\nyou really wanted to but then you've got\n\n1142\n00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:10,159\nyou really wanted to but then you've got\n \n\n1143\n00:21:10,159 --> 00:21:12,110\nyou really wanted to but then you've got\nkind of like the CIS you know model\n\n1144\n00:21:12,110 --> 00:21:12,120\nkind of like the CIS you know model\n \n\n1145\n00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:13,430\nkind of like the CIS you know model\nwhere actually the correct number is\n\n1146\n00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:13,440\nwhere actually the correct number is\n \n\n1147\n00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,590\nwhere actually the correct number is\nhundreds because you're maintaining\n\n1148\n00:21:14,590 --> 00:21:14,600\nhundreds because you're maintaining\n \n\n1149\n00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,110\nhundreds because you're maintaining\nbackwards compatibility and anything\n\n1150\n00:21:16,110 --> 00:21:16,120\nbackwards compatibility and anything\n \n\n1151\n00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:18,430\nbackwards compatibility and anything\nthat can squeeze you you know either\n\n1152\n00:21:18,430 --> 00:21:18,440\nthat can squeeze you you know either\n \n\n1153\n00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,149\nthat can squeeze you you know either\nbetter numbers out of a bench Park\n\n1154\n00:21:20,149 --> 00:21:20,159\nbetter numbers out of a bench Park\n \n\n1155\n00:21:20,159 --> 00:21:22,669\nbetter numbers out of a bench Park\nBenchmark or more CPU sales is is\n\n1156\n00:21:22,669 --> 00:21:22,679\nBenchmark or more CPU sales is is\n \n\n1157\n00:21:22,679 --> 00:21:24,870\nBenchmark or more CPU sales is is\nacceptable and so you know how you\n\n1158\n00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:24,880\nacceptable and so you know how you\n \n\n1159\n00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,269\nacceptable and so you know how you\nperceive what constitutes complexity or\n\n1160\n00:21:27,269 --> 00:21:27,279\nperceive what constitutes complexity or\n \n\n1161\n00:21:27,279 --> 00:21:29,430\nperceive what constitutes complexity or\nhow much complexity you're willing to\n\n1162\n00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:29,440\nhow much complexity you're willing to\n \n\n1163\n00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,669\nhow much complexity you're willing to\ntolerate is an individual or an\n\n1164\n00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:31,679\ntolerate is an individual or an\n \n\n1165\n00:21:31,679 --> 00:21:34,190\ntolerate is an individual or an\norganizational decision and you know\n\n1166\n00:21:34,190 --> 00:21:34,200\norganizational decision and you know\n \n\n1167\n00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,390\norganizational decision and you know\nsome things can actually move that up\n\n1168\n00:21:37,390 --> 00:21:37,400\nsome things can actually move that up\n \n\n1169\n00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,430\nsome things can actually move that up\nlike I have abandoned projects because\n\n1170\n00:21:39,430 --> 00:21:39,440\nlike I have abandoned projects because\n \n\n1171\n00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:40,990\nlike I have abandoned projects because\nthey got complicated and annoying to\n\n1172\n00:21:40,990 --> 00:21:41,000\nthey got complicated and annoying to\n \n\n1173\n00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,990\nthey got complicated and annoying to\nwork on but like some people might just\n\n1174\n00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:44,000\nwork on but like some people might just\n \n\n1175\n00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,710\nwork on but like some people might just\ntolerate that and not perceive it I've\n\n1176\n00:21:45,710 --> 00:21:45,720\ntolerate that and not perceive it I've\n \n\n1177\n00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,470\ntolerate that and not perceive it I've\nworked with some brilliant people who\n\n1178\n00:21:47,470 --> 00:21:47,480\nworked with some brilliant people who\n \n\n1179\n00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,950\nworked with some brilliant people who\nwrite the most complicated insane\n\n1180\n00:21:49,950 --> 00:21:49,960\nwrite the most complicated insane\n \n\n1181\n00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,350\nwrite the most complicated insane\nconvoluted code from my perspective but\n\n1182\n00:21:52,350 --> 00:21:52,360\nconvoluted code from my perspective but\n \n\n1183\n00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:53,870\nconvoluted code from my perspective but\nwhen I sort of go to them I'm like this\n\n1184\n00:21:53,870 --> 00:21:53,880\nwhen I sort of go to them I'm like this\n \n\n1185\n00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,669\nwhen I sort of go to them I'm like this\nis so complicated and weird why did you\n\n1186\n00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:55,679\nis so complicated and weird why did you\n \n\n1187\n00:21:55,679 --> 00:21:57,909\nis so complicated and weird why did you\ndo it this way they don't see it because\n\n1188\n00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:57,919\ndo it this way they don't see it because\n \n\n1189\n00:21:57,919 --> 00:21:59,190\ndo it this way they don't see it because\nthey're just much smarter than me\n\n1190\n00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:59,200\nthey're just much smarter than me\n \n\n1191\n00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,510\nthey're just much smarter than me\nthey're they're able to hold that\n\n1192\n00:22:00,510 --> 00:22:00,520\nthey're they're able to hold that\n \n\n1193\n00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,909\nthey're they're able to hold that\ncomplexity in their head comfortably and\n\n1194\n00:22:02,909 --> 00:22:02,919\ncomplexity in their head comfortably and\n \n\n1195\n00:22:02,919 --> 00:22:04,830\ncomplexity in their head comfortably and\nso for them it doesn't feel that way\n\n1196\n00:22:04,830 --> 00:22:04,840\nso for them it doesn't feel that way\n \n\n1197\n00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,549\nso for them it doesn't feel that way\nanother way a system can become more\n\n1198\n00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:06,559\nanother way a system can become more\n \n\n1199\n00:22:06,559 --> 00:22:09,549\nanother way a system can become more\ncomplicated if it's worth a lot of money\n\n1200\n00:22:09,549 --> 00:22:09,559\ncomplicated if it's worth a lot of money\n \n\n1201\n00:22:09,559 --> 00:22:11,149\ncomplicated if it's worth a lot of money\nright because like you can just hire\n\n1202\n00:22:11,149 --> 00:22:11,159\nright because like you can just hire\n \n\n1203\n00:22:11,159 --> 00:22:14,269\nright because like you can just hire\nanother poor Schmo to sling Java into\n\n1204\n00:22:14,269 --> 00:22:14,279\nanother poor Schmo to sling Java into\n \n\n1205\n00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:17,110\nanother poor Schmo to sling Java into\nthe code base I mean has anybody here\n\n1206\n00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:17,120\nthe code base I mean has anybody here\n \n\n1207\n00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,830\nthe code base I mean has anybody here\nworked on an EA Sports\n\n1208\n00:22:18,830 --> 00:22:18,840\nworked on an EA Sports\n \n\n1209\n00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,669\nworked on an EA Sports\ntitle yeah I'm so\n\n1210\n00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:21,679\ntitle yeah I'm so\n \n\n1211\n00:22:21,679 --> 00:22:25,269\ntitle yeah I'm so\nsorry I have heard some things man and\n\n1212\n00:22:25,269 --> 00:22:25,279\nsorry I have heard some things man and\n \n\n1213\n00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:27,830\nsorry I have heard some things man and\nit ships every year on on Deadline\n\n1214\n00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:27,840\nit ships every year on on Deadline\n \n\n1215\n00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,669\nit ships every year on on Deadline\nwithout fail right like that's not an\n\n1216\n00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:29,679\nwithout fail right like that's not an\n \n\n1217\n00:22:29,679 --> 00:22:31,350\nwithout fail right like that's not an\nenvironment that leads to like healthy\n\n1218\n00:22:31,350 --> 00:22:31,360\nenvironment that leads to like healthy\n \n\n1219\n00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:33,029\nenvironment that leads to like healthy\nrefactoring or or reduction of\n\n1220\n00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:33,039\nrefactoring or or reduction of\n \n\n1221\n00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:35,750\nrefactoring or or reduction of\ncomplexity but you know what it makes a\n\n1222\n00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:35,760\ncomplexity but you know what it makes a\n \n\n1223\n00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,510\ncomplexity but you know what it makes a\nboatload of\n\n1224\n00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:37,520\nboatload of\n \n\n1225\n00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,750\nboatload of\nmoney and so they'll hire people to work\n\n1226\n00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:39,760\nmoney and so they'll hire people to work\n \n\n1227\n00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:40,909\nmoney and so they'll hire people to work\non it because they can afford to and\n\n1228\n00:22:40,909 --> 00:22:40,919\non it because they can afford to and\n \n\n1229\n00:22:40,919 --> 00:22:42,070\non it because they can afford to and\nyou'll work on it because they'll pay\n\n1230\n00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:42,080\nyou'll work on it because they'll pay\n \n\n1231\n00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,710\nyou'll work on it because they'll pay\nyou enough because they know they\n\n1232\n00:22:45,710 --> 00:22:45,720\nyou enough because they know they\n \n\n1233\n00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,029\nyou enough because they know they\nknow right and so part of this as well\n\n1234\n00:22:48,029 --> 00:22:48,039\nknow right and so part of this as well\n \n\n1235\n00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:49,390\nknow right and so part of this as well\nis that also if you just have more\n\n1236\n00:22:49,390 --> 00:22:49,400\nis that also if you just have more\n \n\n1237\n00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,510\nis that also if you just have more\npeople working on things you know you\n\n1238\n00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:51,520\npeople working on things you know you\n \n\n1239\n00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,269\npeople working on things you know you\ncan tolerate more complexity I can hold\n\n1240\n00:22:53,269 --> 00:22:53,279\ncan tolerate more complexity I can hold\n \n\n1241\n00:22:53,279 --> 00:22:54,510\ncan tolerate more complexity I can hold\npart of it in my head and you can hold\n\n1242\n00:22:54,510 --> 00:22:54,520\npart of it in my head and you can hold\n \n\n1243\n00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,190\npart of it in my head and you can hold\npart of it your head and I kind of want\n\n1244\n00:22:56,190 --> 00:22:56,200\npart of it your head and I kind of want\n \n\n1245\n00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,710\npart of it your head and I kind of want\nto distinguish like there's sort of the\n\n1246\n00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:58,720\nto distinguish like there's sort of the\n \n\n1247\n00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,350\nto distinguish like there's sort of the\nbreadth of complexity and if you have a\n\n1248\n00:23:00,350 --> 00:23:00,360\nbreadth of complexity and if you have a\n \n\n1249\n00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:02,310\nbreadth of complexity and if you have a\nwell- factored system you can decompose\n\n1250\n00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:02,320\nwell- factored system you can decompose\n \n\n1251\n00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,149\nwell- factored system you can decompose\nthe complexity either into layers or or\n\n1252\n00:23:05,149 --> 00:23:05,159\nthe complexity either into layers or or\n \n\n1253\n00:23:05,159 --> 00:23:07,190\nthe complexity either into layers or or\nmodules right like each individual Lego\n\n1254\n00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:07,200\nmodules right like each individual Lego\n \n\n1255\n00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,590\nmodules right like each individual Lego\nbrick is simple but you can build very\n\n1256\n00:23:08,590 --> 00:23:08,600\nbrick is simple but you can build very\n \n\n1257\n00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,750\nbrick is simple but you can build very\ncomplicated things from it right and so\n\n1258\n00:23:10,750 --> 00:23:10,760\ncomplicated things from it right and so\n \n\n1259\n00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,750\ncomplicated things from it right and so\nthat's sort of the system complexity\n\n1260\n00:23:12,750 --> 00:23:12,760\nthat's sort of the system complexity\n \n\n1261\n00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,230\nthat's sort of the system complexity\nversus the component complexity CSS is\n\n1262\n00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:16,240\nversus the component complexity CSS is\n \n\n1263\n00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,110\nversus the component complexity CSS is\nincredibly complicated and by that what\n\n1264\n00:23:18,110 --> 00:23:18,120\nincredibly complicated and by that what\n \n\n1265\n00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:20,350\nincredibly complicated and by that what\nI mean it's complex you can't tell from\n\n1266\n00:23:20,350 --> 00:23:20,360\nI mean it's complex you can't tell from\n \n\n1267\n00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:22,830\nI mean it's complex you can't tell from\nlooking at one rule what it will\n\n1268\n00:23:22,830 --> 00:23:22,840\nlooking at one rule what it will\n \n\n1269\n00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,149\nlooking at one rule what it will\nmanifest as in a final\n\n1270\n00:23:25,149 --> 00:23:25,159\nmanifest as in a final\n \n\n1271\n00:23:25,159 --> 00:23:27,390\nmanifest as in a final\ndocument so okay well we can just solve\n\n1272\n00:23:27,390 --> 00:23:27,400\ndocument so okay well we can just solve\n \n\n1273\n00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,950\ndocument so okay well we can just solve\nthis problem with better tools right\n\n1274\n00:23:28,950 --> 00:23:28,960\nthis problem with better tools right\n \n\n1275\n00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,510\nthis problem with better tools right\nwell no because as we've talked about we\n\n1276\n00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:31,520\nwell no because as we've talked about we\n \n\n1277\n00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,390\nwell no because as we've talked about we\nyou know we have this homeostasis point\n\n1278\n00:23:33,390 --> 00:23:33,400\nyou know we have this homeostasis point\n \n\n1279\n00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,430\nyou know we have this homeostasis point\nthat we fall towards over time and we\n\n1280\n00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:35,440\nthat we fall towards over time and we\n \n\n1281\n00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,390\nthat we fall towards over time and we\ncan choose where to set it but we do\n\n1282\n00:23:37,390 --> 00:23:37,400\ncan choose where to set it but we do\n \n\n1283\n00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,669\ncan choose where to set it but we do\nmove towards it and you know the\n\n1284\n00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:39,679\nmove towards it and you know the\n \n\n1285\n00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:41,070\nmove towards it and you know the\nresearch on this actually goes all the\n\n1286\n00:23:41,070 --> 00:23:41,080\nresearch on this actually goes all the\n \n\n1287\n00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,269\nresearch on this actually goes all the\nway back to like the 1860s this is uh\n\n1288\n00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:43,279\nway back to like the 1860s this is uh\n \n\n1289\n00:23:43,279 --> 00:23:45,789\nway back to like the 1860s this is uh\nJeff's Paradox which was like why did\n\n1290\n00:23:45,789 --> 00:23:45,799\nJeff's Paradox which was like why did\n \n\n1291\n00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:49,470\nJeff's Paradox which was like why did\ncoal consumption not decrease when\n\n1292\n00:23:49,470 --> 00:23:49,480\ncoal consumption not decrease when\n \n\n1293\n00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,190\ncoal consumption not decrease when\nengines became more efficient the answer\n\n1294\n00:23:52,190 --> 00:23:52,200\nengines became more efficient the answer\n \n\n1295\n00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,470\nengines became more efficient the answer\nis people did more work right and so I\n\n1296\n00:23:56,470 --> 00:23:56,480\nis people did more work right and so I\n \n\n1297\n00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,350\nis people did more work right and so I\nfeel very much that this is sort of the\n\n1298\n00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:59,360\nfeel very much that this is sort of the\n \n\n1299\n00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:01,510\nfeel very much that this is sort of the\ninevitable conclusion we have to draw\n\n1300\n00:24:01,510 --> 00:24:01,520\ninevitable conclusion we have to draw\n \n\n1301\n00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,909\ninevitable conclusion we have to draw\nfrom looking at the problem which is\n\n1302\n00:24:02,909 --> 00:24:02,919\nfrom looking at the problem which is\n \n\n1303\n00:24:02,919 --> 00:24:04,750\nfrom looking at the problem which is\nthat the degree of complexity of a\n\n1304\n00:24:04,750 --> 00:24:04,760\nthat the degree of complexity of a\n \n\n1305\n00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,510\nthat the degree of complexity of a\nsystem is tied to who we are and what\n\n1306\n00:24:06,510 --> 00:24:06,520\nsystem is tied to who we are and what\n \n\n1307\n00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,830\nsystem is tied to who we are and what\nwe're doing over\n\n1308\n00:24:08,830 --> 00:24:08,840\nwe're doing over\n \n\n1309\n00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,070\nwe're doing over\ntime right and so when we buy back some\n\n1310\n00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:12,080\ntime right and so when we buy back some\n \n\n1311\n00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,110\ntime right and so when we buy back some\ncomplexity by using better tools or by\n\n1312\n00:24:14,110 --> 00:24:14,120\ncomplexity by using better tools or by\n \n\n1313\n00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:15,990\ncomplexity by using better tools or by\npicking a simpler environment we're\n\n1314\n00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:16,000\npicking a simpler environment we're\n \n\n1315\n00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,029\npicking a simpler environment we're\ngoing to spend that out again\n\n1316\n00:24:20,029 --> 00:24:20,039\ngoing to spend that out again\n \n\n1317\n00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:21,870\ngoing to spend that out again\neventually okay so let's talk a little\n\n1318\n00:24:21,870 --> 00:24:21,880\neventually okay so let's talk a little\n \n\n1319\n00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,230\neventually okay so let's talk a little\nbit about some theories of complexity\n\n1320\n00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:24,240\nbit about some theories of complexity\n \n\n1321\n00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,630\nbit about some theories of complexity\nbecause you know this I'm from a\n\n1322\n00:24:25,630 --> 00:24:25,640\nbecause you know this I'm from a\n \n\n1323\n00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,389\nbecause you know this I'm from a\nresearch lab and I like to like read\n\n1324\n00:24:27,389 --> 00:24:27,399\nresearch lab and I like to like read\n \n\n1325\n00:24:27,399 --> 00:24:30,230\nresearch lab and I like to like read\npapers so this is not a new this is not\n\n1326\n00:24:30,230 --> 00:24:30,240\npapers so this is not a new this is not\n \n\n1327\n00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,590\npapers so this is not a new this is not\na new problem uh have have people heard\n\n1328\n00:24:32,590 --> 00:24:32,600\na new problem uh have have people heard\n \n\n1329\n00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:38,250\na new problem uh have have people heard\nof\n\n1330\n00:24:38,250 --> 00:24:38,260\n\n \n\n1331\n00:24:38,260 --> 00:24:41,690\n\n[Laughter]\n\n1332\n00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:41,700\n[Laughter]\n \n\n1333\n00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:58,389\n[Laughter]\n[Applause]\n\n1334\n00:24:58,389 --> 00:24:58,399\n\n \n\n1335\n00:24:58,399 --> 00:24:59,830\n\ncost and be problematic is worth\n\n1336\n00:24:59,830 --> 00:24:59,840\ncost and be problematic is worth\n \n\n1337\n00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,510\ncost and be problematic is worth\nthinking about in fact people have been\n\n1338\n00:25:01,510 --> 00:25:01,520\nthinking about in fact people have been\n \n\n1339\n00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,430\nthinking about in fact people have been\nlooking at this and thinking about it\n\n1340\n00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:03,440\nlooking at this and thinking about it\n \n\n1341\n00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,710\nlooking at this and thinking about it\nsince the 1980s this is uh mayor liman\n\n1342\n00:25:06,710 --> 00:25:06,720\nsince the 1980s this is uh mayor liman\n \n\n1343\n00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,990\nsince the 1980s this is uh mayor liman\nin 1980s uh i e volume 68 so like this\n\n1344\n00:25:10,990 --> 00:25:11,000\nin 1980s uh i e volume 68 so like this\n \n\n1345\n00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,549\nin 1980s uh i e volume 68 so like this\nis not a new domain and so even back\n\n1346\n00:25:13,549 --> 00:25:13,559\nis not a new domain and so even back\n \n\n1347\n00:25:13,559 --> 00:25:16,310\nis not a new domain and so even back\nthen this this Edition was from 1980 the\n\n1348\n00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:16,320\nthen this this Edition was from 1980 the\n \n\n1349\n00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,470\nthen this this Edition was from 1980 the\nfirst paper published was in 1974 on\n\n1350\n00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:18,480\nfirst paper published was in 1974 on\n \n\n1351\n00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,269\nfirst paper published was in 1974 on\nthese laws of software engineering we're\n\n1352\n00:25:20,269 --> 00:25:20,279\nthese laws of software engineering we're\n \n\n1353\n00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:22,430\nthese laws of software engineering we're\nnot going to read these like super close\n\n1354\n00:25:22,430 --> 00:25:22,440\nnot going to read these like super close\n \n\n1355\n00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,149\nnot going to read these like super close\nthere it's more that I want you to\n\n1356\n00:25:24,149 --> 00:25:24,159\nthere it's more that I want you to\n \n\n1357\n00:25:24,159 --> 00:25:26,549\nthere it's more that I want you to\nrealize that like this kind of\n\n1358\n00:25:26,549 --> 00:25:26,559\nrealize that like this kind of\n \n\n1359\n00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,830\nrealize that like this kind of\nrecognition that systems\n\n1360\n00:25:28,830 --> 00:25:28,840\nrecognition that systems\n \n\n1361\n00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,990\nrecognition that systems\ngrow to meet growing needs if they're\n\n1362\n00:25:30,990 --> 00:25:31,000\ngrow to meet growing needs if they're\n \n\n1363\n00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,950\ngrow to meet growing needs if they're\nsuccessful is not a new idea it's a\n\n1364\n00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:32,960\nsuccessful is not a new idea it's a\n \n\n1365\n00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,310\nsuccessful is not a new idea it's a\ncommon problem and whether you're\n\n1366\n00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:34,320\ncommon problem and whether you're\n \n\n1367\n00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,669\ncommon problem and whether you're\nworking you know in building tools or\n\n1368\n00:25:36,669 --> 00:25:36,679\nworking you know in building tools or\n \n\n1369\n00:25:36,679 --> 00:25:38,590\nworking you know in building tools or\nlanguages you know you might start with\n\n1370\n00:25:38,590 --> 00:25:38,600\nlanguages you know you might start with\n \n\n1371\n00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,470\nlanguages you know you might start with\nan elegant and simple thing but as a\n\n1372\n00:25:41,470 --> 00:25:41,480\nan elegant and simple thing but as a\n \n\n1373\n00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,909\nan elegant and simple thing but as a\nsystem has more demands on it it\n\n1374\n00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:43,919\nsystem has more demands on it it\n \n\n1375\n00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:47,830\nsystem has more demands on it it\nresponds by adding right that's that's a\n\n1376\n00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:47,840\nresponds by adding right that's that's a\n \n\n1377\n00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,669\nresponds by adding right that's that's a\nvery common and it's a reasonable\n\n1378\n00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:49,679\nvery common and it's a reasonable\n \n\n1379\n00:25:49,679 --> 00:25:51,070\nvery common and it's a reasonable\nconsequence and if you don't do those\n\n1380\n00:25:51,070 --> 00:25:51,080\nconsequence and if you don't do those\n \n\n1381\n00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,870\nconsequence and if you don't do those\nthings the thing will often sort of\n\n1382\n00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:52,880\nthings the thing will often sort of\n \n\n1383\n00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,110\nthings the thing will often sort of\nstarve and\n\n1384\n00:25:54,110 --> 00:25:54,120\nstarve and\n \n\n1385\n00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:56,630\nstarve and\ndie um one great paper if you haven't\n\n1386\n00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:56,640\ndie um one great paper if you haven't\n \n\n1387\n00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,590\ndie um one great paper if you haven't\nread it yet on this sort of topic is out\n\n1388\n00:25:58,590 --> 00:25:58,600\nread it yet on this sort of topic is out\n \n\n1389\n00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,350\nread it yet on this sort of topic is out\nof the tarpit by Mosley this is from 06\n\n1390\n00:26:01,350 --> 00:26:01,360\nof the tarpit by Mosley this is from 06\n \n\n1391\n00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:05,230\nof the tarpit by Mosley this is from 06\nand uh this paper differentiates between\n\n1392\n00:26:05,230 --> 00:26:05,240\nand uh this paper differentiates between\n \n\n1393\n00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,190\nand uh this paper differentiates between\nwhat is like accidentally complex versus\n\n1394\n00:26:08,190 --> 00:26:08,200\nwhat is like accidentally complex versus\n \n\n1395\n00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,389\nwhat is like accidentally complex versus\nessentially complex right so like\n\n1396\n00:26:10,389 --> 00:26:10,399\nessentially complex right so like\n \n\n1397\n00:26:10,399 --> 00:26:12,990\nessentially complex right so like\nessential complexity is like the\n\n1398\n00:26:12,990 --> 00:26:13,000\nessential complexity is like the\n \n\n1399\n00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,190\nessential complexity is like the\nirreducible like non- illimitable part\n\n1400\n00:26:16,190 --> 00:26:16,200\nirreducible like non- illimitable part\n \n\n1401\n00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,669\nirreducible like non- illimitable part\nof your system you know if you are\n\n1402\n00:26:18,669 --> 00:26:18,679\nof your system you know if you are\n \n\n1403\n00:26:18,679 --> 00:26:20,350\nof your system you know if you are\ntrying to model certain physical\n\n1404\n00:26:20,350 --> 00:26:20,360\ntrying to model certain physical\n \n\n1405\n00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:23,389\ntrying to model certain physical\nprocesses like you know smoke or fire\n\n1406\n00:26:23,389 --> 00:26:23,399\nprocesses like you know smoke or fire\n \n\n1407\n00:26:23,399 --> 00:26:25,070\nprocesses like you know smoke or fire\nlike the physics part where you're\n\n1408\n00:26:25,070 --> 00:26:25,080\nlike the physics part where you're\n \n\n1409\n00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,590\nlike the physics part where you're\nactually doing the work you can't get\n\n1410\n00:26:26,590 --> 00:26:26,600\nactually doing the work you can't get\n \n\n1411\n00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:27,710\nactually doing the work you can't get\nrid of that you don't want to get rid of\n\n1412\n00:26:27,710 --> 00:26:27,720\nrid of that you don't want to get rid of\n \n\n1413\n00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,310\nrid of that you don't want to get rid of\nthat that's what you're here for right\n\n1414\n00:26:29,310 --> 00:26:29,320\nthat that's what you're here for right\n \n\n1415\n00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,430\nthat that's what you're here for right\nbut The Accidental complexity is all\n\n1416\n00:26:31,430 --> 00:26:31,440\nbut The Accidental complexity is all\n \n\n1417\n00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,470\nbut The Accidental complexity is all\nthat other stuff like oh God we got to\n\n1418\n00:26:33,470 --> 00:26:33,480\nthat other stuff like oh God we got to\n \n\n1419\n00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,389\nthat other stuff like oh God we got to\ncompile this so it works on like Windows\n\n1420\n00:26:36,389 --> 00:26:36,399\ncompile this so it works on like Windows\n \n\n1421\n00:26:36,399 --> 00:26:39,510\ncompile this so it works on like Windows\n11 has changed the ABI for this DL we\n\n1422\n00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:39,520\n11 has changed the ABI for this DL we\n \n\n1423\n00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,549\n11 has changed the ABI for this DL we\nlike all that stuff where you you know\n\n1424\n00:26:41,549 --> 00:26:41,559\nlike all that stuff where you you know\n \n\n1425\n00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:44,590\nlike all that stuff where you you know\nwe heard about deine hoisting the um uh\n\n1426\n00:26:44,590 --> 00:26:44,600\nwe heard about deine hoisting the um uh\n \n\n1427\n00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,990\nwe heard about deine hoisting the um uh\nphone up the uh the Mast to download 11\n\n1428\n00:26:47,990 --> 00:26:48,000\nphone up the uh the Mast to download 11\n \n\n1429\n00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,870\nphone up the uh the Mast to download 11\ngigs of\n\n1430\n00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:50,880\ngigs of\n \n\n1431\n00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,070\ngigs of\nsomething right that's mostly accidental\n\n1432\n00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:54,080\nsomething right that's mostly accidental\n \n\n1433\n00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,950\nsomething right that's mostly accidental\ncomplexity for our purposes and so it\n\n1434\n00:26:55,950 --> 00:26:55,960\ncomplexity for our purposes and so it\n \n\n1435\n00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,389\ncomplexity for our purposes and so it\nhelps as you're working and thinking\n\n1436\n00:26:57,389 --> 00:26:57,399\nhelps as you're working and thinking\n \n\n1437\n00:26:57,399 --> 00:26:59,510\nhelps as you're working and thinking\nabout complexity to to think about where\n\n1438\n00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:59,520\nabout complexity to to think about where\n \n\n1439\n00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,149\nabout complexity to to think about where\nyou're spending that budget and whether\n\n1440\n00:27:01,149 --> 00:27:01,159\nyou're spending that budget and whether\n \n\n1441\n00:27:01,159 --> 00:27:02,830\nyou're spending that budget and whether\nit's whether you're being deliberate in\n\n1442\n00:27:02,830 --> 00:27:02,840\nit's whether you're being deliberate in\n \n\n1443\n00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,230\nit's whether you're being deliberate in\nterms of how you're adopting\n\n1444\n00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:06,240\nterms of how you're adopting\n \n\n1445\n00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,669\nterms of how you're adopting\ncomplexity the other thing I want to uh\n\n1446\n00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:08,679\ncomplexity the other thing I want to uh\n \n\n1447\n00:27:08,679 --> 00:27:12,230\ncomplexity the other thing I want to uh\nrefer to is this great um this great\n\n1448\n00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:12,240\nrefer to is this great um this great\n \n\n1449\n00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,549\nrefer to is this great um this great\nessay from the Berkeley DB team in the\n\n1450\n00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:14,559\nessay from the Berkeley DB team in the\n \n\n1451\n00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:17,070\nessay from the Berkeley DB team in the\narchitecture of Open Source and honestly\n\n1452\n00:27:17,070 --> 00:27:17,080\narchitecture of Open Source and honestly\n \n\n1453\n00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:18,870\narchitecture of Open Source and honestly\nyou I highly recommend reading this if\n\n1454\n00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:18,880\nyou I highly recommend reading this if\n \n\n1455\n00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,510\nyou I highly recommend reading this if\nyou just like software engineering the\n\n1456\n00:27:20,510 --> 00:27:20,520\nyou just like software engineering the\n \n\n1457\n00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,510\nyou just like software engineering the\narchitecture of Open Source software is\n\n1458\n00:27:22,510 --> 00:27:22,520\narchitecture of Open Source software is\n \n\n1459\n00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,830\narchitecture of Open Source software is\nis a a cool series and basically what\n\n1460\n00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:25,840\nis a a cool series and basically what\n \n\n1461\n00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,149\nis a a cool series and basically what\nthey do is interview open source\n\n1462\n00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:28,159\nthey do is interview open source\n \n\n1463\n00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:30,710\nthey do is interview open source\ncommunities about their software and\n\n1464\n00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:30,720\ncommunities about their software and\n \n\n1465\n00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:31,830\ncommunities about their software and\nhave them write essays about what\n\n1466\n00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:31,840\nhave them write essays about what\n \n\n1467\n00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,909\nhave them write essays about what\nthey've done and then they publish and\n\n1468\n00:27:32,909 --> 00:27:32,919\nthey've done and then they publish and\n \n\n1469\n00:27:32,919 --> 00:27:35,230\nthey've done and then they publish and\nshare those but I think this Berkeley DB\n\n1470\n00:27:35,230 --> 00:27:35,240\nshare those but I think this Berkeley DB\n \n\n1471\n00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,710\nshare those but I think this Berkeley DB\nchapter in particular is exceptional and\n\n1472\n00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:38,720\nchapter in particular is exceptional and\n \n\n1473\n00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,990\nchapter in particular is exceptional and\nI I think about this all the time which\n\n1474\n00:27:40,990 --> 00:27:41,000\nI I think about this all the time which\n \n\n1475\n00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,830\nI I think about this all the time which\nis that software architecture degrades\n\n1476\n00:27:43,830 --> 00:27:43,840\nis that software architecture degrades\n \n\n1477\n00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,269\nis that software architecture degrades\nwith changes made to software right so\n\n1478\n00:27:46,269 --> 00:27:46,279\nwith changes made to software right so\n \n\n1479\n00:27:46,279 --> 00:27:47,830\nwith changes made to software right so\nyou might have the most elegant\n\n1480\n00:27:47,830 --> 00:27:47,840\nyou might have the most elegant\n \n\n1481\n00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,789\nyou might have the most elegant\nbrilliant carefully planned system in\n\n1482\n00:27:49,789 --> 00:27:49,799\nbrilliant carefully planned system in\n \n\n1483\n00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:52,430\nbrilliant carefully planned system in\nthe world but it does not exist at a\n\n1484\n00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:52,440\nthe world but it does not exist at a\n \n\n1485\n00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,710\nthe world but it does not exist at a\nsingle point in time in a vacuum and as\n\n1486\n00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:54,720\nsingle point in time in a vacuum and as\n \n\n1487\n00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,710\nsingle point in time in a vacuum and as\nnew demands come along this architecture\n\n1488\n00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:56,720\nnew demands come along this architecture\n \n\n1489\n00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,110\nnew demands come along this architecture\nwill Decay and so requires a constant\n\n1490\n00:27:59,110 --> 00:27:59,120\nwill Decay and so requires a constant\n \n\n1491\n00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:00,669\nwill Decay and so requires a constant\nShoring up and when you have big\n\n1492\n00:28:00,669 --> 00:28:00,679\nShoring up and when you have big\n \n\n1493\n00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:02,430\nShoring up and when you have big\ninterfaces that you've invested heavily\n\n1494\n00:28:02,430 --> 00:28:02,440\ninterfaces that you've invested heavily\n \n\n1495\n00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,789\ninterfaces that you've invested heavily\nin and they're straining it can be\n\n1496\n00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:04,799\nin and they're straining it can be\n \n\n1497\n00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:07,269\nin and they're straining it can be\nextremely expensive to change\n\n1498\n00:28:07,269 --> 00:28:07,279\nextremely expensive to change\n \n\n1499\n00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:09,909\nextremely expensive to change\nthem I also just love this this is a\n\n1500\n00:28:09,909 --> 00:28:09,919\nthem I also just love this this is a\n \n\n1501\n00:28:09,919 --> 00:28:11,909\nthem I also just love this this is a\nlittle more handmade specific kind of\n\n1502\n00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:11,919\nlittle more handmade specific kind of\n \n\n1503\n00:28:11,919 --> 00:28:14,149\nlittle more handmade specific kind of\nvibe the Excel team motto at least\n\n1504\n00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:14,159\nvibe the Excel team motto at least\n \n\n1505\n00:28:14,159 --> 00:28:16,070\nvibe the Excel team motto at least\naccording to Joel spolski is find your\n\n1506\n00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:16,080\naccording to Joel spolski is find your\n \n\n1507\n00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,549\naccording to Joel spolski is find your\ndependencies and eliminate\n\n1508\n00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:18,559\ndependencies and eliminate\n \n\n1509\n00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:21,710\ndependencies and eliminate\nthem uh I have been told on reasonably\n\n1510\n00:28:21,710 --> 00:28:21,720\nthem uh I have been told on reasonably\n \n\n1511\n00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,389\nthem uh I have been told on reasonably\ngood authority that Excel uh actually is\n\n1512\n00:28:24,389 --> 00:28:24,399\ngood authority that Excel uh actually is\n \n\n1513\n00:28:24,399 --> 00:28:26,710\ngood authority that Excel uh actually is\nbuilt with its own C compiler that they\n\n1514\n00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:26,720\nbuilt with its own C compiler that they\n \n\n1515\n00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,389\nbuilt with its own C compiler that they\nthey didn't even want to rely on other\n\n1516\n00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:28,399\nthey didn't even want to rely on other\n \n\n1517\n00:28:28,399 --> 00:28:30,350\nthey didn't even want to rely on other\nteams within Microsoft and you know to\n\n1518\n00:28:30,350 --> 00:28:30,360\nteams within Microsoft and you know to\n \n\n1519\n00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:33,389\nteams within Microsoft and you know to\nthe degree where they've built their own\n\n1520\n00:28:33,389 --> 00:28:33,399\nthe degree where they've built their own\n \n\n1521\n00:28:33,399 --> 00:28:36,070\nthe degree where they've built their own\ncompilers I'm not saying you necessarily\n\n1522\n00:28:36,070 --> 00:28:36,080\ncompilers I'm not saying you necessarily\n \n\n1523\n00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,909\ncompilers I'm not saying you necessarily\nshould do that I'm not saying you\n\n1524\n00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:37,919\nshould do that I'm not saying you\n \n\n1525\n00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:39,430\nshould do that I'm not saying you\nnecessarily shouldn't you got to think\n\n1526\n00:28:39,430 --> 00:28:39,440\nnecessarily shouldn't you got to think\n \n\n1527\n00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,269\nnecessarily shouldn't you got to think\nabout how you're spending your\n\n1528\n00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:41,279\nabout how you're spending your\n \n\n1529\n00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:43,269\nabout how you're spending your\nbudget and the last kind of point I want\n\n1530\n00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:43,279\nbudget and the last kind of point I want\n \n\n1531\n00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:45,350\nbudget and the last kind of point I want\nto make sort of on this theme is again\n\n1532\n00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:45,360\nto make sort of on this theme is again\n \n\n1533\n00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,389\nto make sort of on this theme is again\nthat complexity isn't necessarily bad\n\n1534\n00:28:47,389 --> 00:28:47,399\nthat complexity isn't necessarily bad\n \n\n1535\n00:28:47,399 --> 00:28:49,350\nthat complexity isn't necessarily bad\nright like complexity can lead to all\n\n1536\n00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:49,360\nright like complexity can lead to all\n \n\n1537\n00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,310\nright like complexity can lead to all\nkinds of like wonderful emergent\n\n1538\n00:28:51,310 --> 00:28:51,320\nkinds of like wonderful emergent\n \n\n1539\n00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,350\nkinds of like wonderful emergent\nproperties right you the Legend of\n\n1540\n00:28:54,350 --> 00:28:54,360\nproperties right you the Legend of\n \n\n1541\n00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,509\nproperties right you the Legend of\nZelda um you know breath of the Wild\n\n1542\n00:28:58,509 --> 00:28:58,519\nZelda um you know breath of the Wild\n \n\n1543\n00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:00,710\nZelda um you know breath of the Wild\nit has had so such a wonderful Community\n\n1544\n00:29:00,710 --> 00:29:00,720\nit has had so such a wonderful Community\n \n\n1545\n00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,110\nit has had so such a wonderful Community\ngrow up around it precisely because they\n\n1546\n00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:03,120\ngrow up around it precisely because they\n \n\n1547\n00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,950\ngrow up around it precisely because they\nmanaged to tame complexity with their\n\n1548\n00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:04,960\nmanaged to tame complexity with their\n \n\n1549\n00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,710\nmanaged to tame complexity with their\nchemistry engine so there's a lot of\n\n1550\n00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:06,720\nchemistry engine so there's a lot of\n \n\n1551\n00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,269\nchemistry engine so there's a lot of\nemergent gameplay properties and\n\n1552\n00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:09,279\nemergent gameplay properties and\n \n\n1553\n00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:11,549\nemergent gameplay properties and\nexperiences that come out of\n\n1554\n00:29:11,549 --> 00:29:11,559\nexperiences that come out of\n \n\n1555\n00:29:11,559 --> 00:29:13,350\nexperiences that come out of\ninteractions complex interactions\n\n1556\n00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:13,360\ninteractions complex interactions\n \n\n1557\n00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,830\ninteractions complex interactions\nbetween systems but the systems are\n\n1558\n00:29:14,830 --> 00:29:14,840\nbetween systems but the systems are\n \n\n1559\n00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,909\nbetween systems but the systems are\nfactored in a way that enables and\n\n1560\n00:29:16,909 --> 00:29:16,919\nfactored in a way that enables and\n \n\n1561\n00:29:16,919 --> 00:29:19,990\nfactored in a way that enables and\nempowers this um and of course if you're\n\n1562\n00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:20,000\nempowers this um and of course if you're\n \n\n1563\n00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,149\nempowers this um and of course if you're\na Rog likee fan you know people have\n\n1564\n00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:22,159\na Rog likee fan you know people have\n \n\n1565\n00:29:22,159 --> 00:29:24,830\na Rog likee fan you know people have\nbeen doing this forever\n\n1566\n00:29:24,830 --> 00:29:24,840\nbeen doing this forever\n \n\n1567\n00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,509\nbeen doing this forever\nthere okay so how well now what\n\n1568\n00:29:29,509 --> 00:29:29,519\nthere okay so how well now what\n \n\n1569\n00:29:29,519 --> 00:29:33,509\nthere okay so how well now what\nyou know we we've we have now looked at\n\n1570\n00:29:33,509 --> 00:29:33,519\nyou know we we've we have now looked at\n \n\n1571\n00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:36,190\nyou know we we've we have now looked at\ncomplexity I've told you you can't get\n\n1572\n00:29:36,190 --> 00:29:36,200\ncomplexity I've told you you can't get\n \n\n1573\n00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,990\ncomplexity I've told you you can't get\nrid of it so we're just going to have to\n\n1574\n00:29:38,990 --> 00:29:39,000\nrid of it so we're just going to have to\n \n\n1575\n00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,310\nrid of it so we're just going to have to\nlive with it and you know better tools\n\n1576\n00:29:41,310 --> 00:29:41,320\nlive with it and you know better tools\n \n\n1577\n00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,669\nlive with it and you know better tools\nwon't save us so how are we going to\n\n1578\n00:29:43,669 --> 00:29:43,679\nwon't save us so how are we going to\n \n\n1579\n00:29:43,679 --> 00:29:46,669\nwon't save us so how are we going to\nspend this this complexity budget that\n\n1580\n00:29:46,669 --> 00:29:46,679\nspend this this complexity budget that\n \n\n1581\n00:29:46,679 --> 00:29:47,870\nspend this this complexity budget that\nwe\n\n1582\n00:29:47,870 --> 00:29:47,880\nwe\n \n\n1583\n00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,630\nwe\nhave I mean you know one approach is you\n\n1584\n00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:50,640\nhave I mean you know one approach is you\n \n\n1585\n00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,509\nhave I mean you know one approach is you\njust put your head down and you work\n\n1586\n00:29:52,509 --> 00:29:52,519\njust put your head down and you work\n \n\n1587\n00:29:52,519 --> 00:29:54,470\njust put your head down and you work\naway and and pretend it's not a problem\n\n1588\n00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:54,480\naway and and pretend it's not a problem\n \n\n1589\n00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,149\naway and and pretend it's not a problem\nand you know that that's a pretty common\n\n1590\n00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:56,159\nand you know that that's a pretty common\n \n\n1591\n00:29:56,159 --> 00:29:58,029\nand you know that that's a pretty common\nsolution to all of our problems in life\n\n1592\n00:29:58,029 --> 00:29:58,039\nsolution to all of our problems in life\n \n\n1593\n00:29:58,039 --> 00:29:59,509\nsolution to all of our problems in life\nso we could do that but I'm going to\n\n1594\n00:29:59,509 --> 00:29:59,519\nso we could do that but I'm going to\n \n\n1595\n00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:01,029\nso we could do that but I'm going to\nmaybe try and propose a few ways we can\n\n1596\n00:30:01,029 --> 00:30:01,039\nmaybe try and propose a few ways we can\n \n\n1597\n00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:03,669\nmaybe try and propose a few ways we can\ncut the gordian knot here and so um you\n\n1598\n00:30:03,669 --> 00:30:03,679\ncut the gordian knot here and so um you\n \n\n1599\n00:30:03,679 --> 00:30:05,750\ncut the gordian knot here and so um you\nknow the the story of the gordian knot\n\n1600\n00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:05,760\nknow the the story of the gordian knot\n \n\n1601\n00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,870\nknow the the story of the gordian knot\nwas that there was this sort of um this\n\n1602\n00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:08,880\nwas that there was this sort of um this\n \n\n1603\n00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,990\nwas that there was this sort of um this\nOx cart with a really complicated knot\n\n1604\n00:30:10,990 --> 00:30:11,000\nOx cart with a really complicated knot\n \n\n1605\n00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,070\nOx cart with a really complicated knot\non the the handle and people were like\n\n1606\n00:30:13,070 --> 00:30:13,080\non the the handle and people were like\n \n\n1607\n00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,230\non the the handle and people were like\noh whoever whoever unties this notot\n\n1608\n00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:16,240\noh whoever whoever unties this notot\n \n\n1609\n00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,710\noh whoever whoever unties this notot\nwill rule all of Asia and many people\n\n1610\n00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:18,720\nwill rule all of Asia and many people\n \n\n1611\n00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,310\nwill rule all of Asia and many people\nhad come and then Alexander the Great\n\n1612\n00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:20,320\nhad come and then Alexander the Great\n \n\n1613\n00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:21,990\nhad come and then Alexander the Great\ncame along and depending on the version\n\n1614\n00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:22,000\ncame along and depending on the version\n \n\n1615\n00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,310\ncame along and depending on the version\nof the story you hear he just like he\n\n1616\n00:30:23,310 --> 00:30:23,320\nof the story you hear he just like he\n \n\n1617\n00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,110\nof the story you hear he just like he\nlike okay cool and he cut it with a\n\n1618\n00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:25,120\nlike okay cool and he cut it with a\n \n\n1619\n00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,430\nlike okay cool and he cut it with a\nknife right and so instead of solving\n\n1620\n00:30:28,430 --> 00:30:28,440\nknife right and so instead of solving\n \n\n1621\n00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,389\nknife right and so instead of solving\nthe problem by like trying to be really\n\n1622\n00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:30,399\nthe problem by like trying to be really\n \n\n1623\n00:30:30,399 --> 00:30:31,990\nthe problem by like trying to be really\nsmart or work really hard like can we\n\n1624\n00:30:31,990 --> 00:30:32,000\nsmart or work really hard like can we\n \n\n1625\n00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,310\nsmart or work really hard like can we\njust cheat and change the rules like I\n\n1626\n00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:34,320\njust cheat and change the rules like I\n \n\n1627\n00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,870\njust cheat and change the rules like I\nthink that's a better\n\n1628\n00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:35,880\nthink that's a better\n \n\n1629\n00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,269\nthink that's a better\napproach so one approach is to do what\n\n1630\n00:30:39,269 --> 00:30:39,279\napproach so one approach is to do what\n \n\n1631\n00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:41,750\napproach so one approach is to do what\nfolks here like to do is just start over\n\n1632\n00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:41,760\nfolks here like to do is just start over\n \n\n1633\n00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,029\nfolks here like to do is just start over\nyou know you can't actually get rid of\n\n1634\n00:30:43,029 --> 00:30:43,039\nyou know you can't actually get rid of\n \n\n1635\n00:30:43,039 --> 00:30:45,430\nyou know you can't actually get rid of\nthis problem but you can reset the clock\n\n1636\n00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:45,440\nthis problem but you can reset the clock\n \n\n1637\n00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,430\nthis problem but you can reset the clock\non it right just build a new one start\n\n1638\n00:30:48,430 --> 00:30:48,440\non it right just build a new one start\n \n\n1639\n00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,830\non it right just build a new one start\nfrom the beginning everything's easy in\n\n1640\n00:30:49,830 --> 00:30:49,840\nfrom the beginning everything's easy in\n \n\n1641\n00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,509\nfrom the beginning everything's easy in\nthe beginning it's only when you have\n\n1642\n00:30:51,509 --> 00:30:51,519\nthe beginning it's only when you have\n \n\n1643\n00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,830\nthe beginning it's only when you have\nusers and features that you have\n\n1644\n00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:53,840\nusers and features that you have\n \n\n1645\n00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,710\nusers and features that you have\ncomplexity so like you know make a new\n\n1646\n00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:56,720\ncomplexity so like you know make a new\n \n\n1647\n00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,149\ncomplexity so like you know make a new\nprogramming language start a new VM it's\n\n1648\n00:30:59,149 --> 00:30:59,159\nprogramming language start a new VM it's\n \n\n1649\n00:30:59,159 --> 00:31:01,029\nprogramming language start a new VM it's\ngood you can't really change this like\n\n1650\n00:31:01,029 --> 00:31:01,039\ngood you can't really change this like\n \n\n1651\n00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:04,590\ngood you can't really change this like\nlong run pressure but like genuinely you\n\n1652\n00:31:04,590 --> 00:31:04,600\nlong run pressure but like genuinely you\n \n\n1653\n00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,430\nlong run pressure but like genuinely you\ncan reset the clock and I think that's\n\n1654\n00:31:06,430 --> 00:31:06,440\ncan reset the clock and I think that's\n \n\n1655\n00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,149\ncan reset the clock and I think that's\npart of why things like Excel are\n\n1656\n00:31:09,149 --> 00:31:09,159\npart of why things like Excel are\n \n\n1657\n00:31:09,159 --> 00:31:10,629\npart of why things like Excel are\npopular and successful is they don't\n\n1658\n00:31:10,629 --> 00:31:10,639\npopular and successful is they don't\n \n\n1659\n00:31:10,639 --> 00:31:12,789\npopular and successful is they don't\nhave package managers right like every\n\n1660\n00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:12,799\nhave package managers right like every\n \n\n1661\n00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:14,509\nhave package managers right like every\ntime you make a new Excel document it's\n\n1662\n00:31:14,509 --> 00:31:14,519\ntime you make a new Excel document it's\n \n\n1663\n00:31:14,519 --> 00:31:17,470\ntime you make a new Excel document it's\na brand new universe you know with none\n\n1664\n00:31:17,470 --> 00:31:17,480\na brand new universe you know with none\n \n\n1665\n00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,350\na brand new universe you know with none\nnone of the misery or mistakes that you\n\n1666\n00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:19,360\nnone of the misery or mistakes that you\n \n\n1667\n00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,029\nnone of the misery or mistakes that you\nmade before it's like the Forgiveness of\n\n1668\n00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:21,039\nmade before it's like the Forgiveness of\n \n\n1669\n00:31:21,039 --> 00:31:23,750\nmade before it's like the Forgiveness of\nthe blank page you know that's and\n\n1670\n00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:23,760\nthe blank page you know that's and\n \n\n1671\n00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,789\nthe blank page you know that's and\nthere's something to that um I went to a\n\n1672\n00:31:25,789 --> 00:31:25,799\nthere's something to that um I went to a\n \n\n1673\n00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:28,230\nthere's something to that um I went to a\ntalk by John Romero\n\n1674\n00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:28,240\ntalk by John Romero\n \n\n1675\n00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,909\ntalk by John Romero\nuh at strange Loop not that long ago and\n\n1676\n00:31:29,909 --> 00:31:29,919\nuh at strange Loop not that long ago and\n \n\n1677\n00:31:29,919 --> 00:31:33,190\nuh at strange Loop not that long ago and\nhe talked about how ID software had been\n\n1678\n00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:33,200\nhe talked about how ID software had been\n \n\n1679\n00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,950\nhe talked about how ID software had been\nmaking these like shovelware games for\n\n1680\n00:31:35,950 --> 00:31:35,960\nmaking these like shovelware games for\n \n\n1681\n00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,070\nmaking these like shovelware games for\nas contractors or the the ID software\n\n1682\n00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:38,080\nas contractors or the the ID software\n \n\n1683\n00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,789\nas contractors or the the ID software\nteam him and him and uh Romero and carac\n\n1684\n00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:40,799\nteam him and him and uh Romero and carac\n \n\n1685\n00:31:40,799 --> 00:31:42,830\nteam him and him and uh Romero and carac\nhad been making these sort of shovelware\n\n1686\n00:31:42,830 --> 00:31:42,840\nhad been making these sort of shovelware\n \n\n1687\n00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,149\nhad been making these sort of shovelware\ngames and their attitude was like well\n\n1688\n00:31:45,149 --> 00:31:45,159\ngames and their attitude was like well\n \n\n1689\n00:31:45,159 --> 00:31:46,310\ngames and their attitude was like well\nyou should just always start from\n\n1690\n00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:46,320\nyou should just always start from\n \n\n1691\n00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,310\nyou should just always start from\nscratch you get really good at it you\n\n1692\n00:31:48,310 --> 00:31:48,320\nscratch you get really good at it you\n \n\n1693\n00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,509\nscratch you get really good at it you\ncan be really fast and each time you do\n\n1694\n00:31:50,509 --> 00:31:50,519\ncan be really fast and each time you do\n \n\n1695\n00:31:50,519 --> 00:31:52,310\ncan be really fast and each time you do\na little bit better than the one before\n\n1696\n00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:52,320\na little bit better than the one before\n \n\n1697\n00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,470\na little bit better than the one before\nand we do I think do better I like I'm\n\n1698\n00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:54,480\nand we do I think do better I like I'm\n \n\n1699\n00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,430\nand we do I think do better I like I'm\nnot I I love learning new languages and\n\n1700\n00:31:56,430 --> 00:31:56,440\nnot I I love learning new languages and\n \n\n1701\n00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,590\nnot I I love learning new languages and\nbuilding new ecosystems and I think a\n\n1702\n00:31:58,590 --> 00:31:58,600\nbuilding new ecosystems and I think a\n \n\n1703\n00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,870\nbuilding new ecosystems and I think a\nbig part of the reason why they're\n\n1704\n00:31:59,870 --> 00:31:59,880\nbig part of the reason why they're\n \n\n1705\n00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,310\nbig part of the reason why they're\nsuccessful is because when you have a\n\n1706\n00:32:01,310 --> 00:32:01,320\nsuccessful is because when you have a\n \n\n1707\n00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,350\nsuccessful is because when you have a\nnew language you do have the opportunity\n\n1708\n00:32:04,350 --> 00:32:04,360\nnew language you do have the opportunity\n \n\n1709\n00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,029\nnew language you do have the opportunity\nto like clear away um like the standard\n\n1710\n00:32:08,029 --> 00:32:08,039\nto like clear away um like the standard\n \n\n1711\n00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,029\nto like clear away um like the standard\nlibrary and also just the ecosystem of\n\n1712\n00:32:10,029 --> 00:32:10,039\nlibrary and also just the ecosystem of\n \n\n1713\n00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:12,230\nlibrary and also just the ecosystem of\nideas and people and sort of start from\n\n1714\n00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:12,240\nideas and people and sort of start from\n \n\n1715\n00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,629\nideas and people and sort of start from\na fresh starting point now this won't\n\n1716\n00:32:14,629 --> 00:32:14,639\na fresh starting point now this won't\n \n\n1717\n00:32:14,639 --> 00:32:17,990\na fresh starting point now this won't\ncure complexity in the long run but you\n\n1718\n00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:18,000\ncure complexity in the long run but you\n \n\n1719\n00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,110\ncure complexity in the long run but you\nknow it can get better right at least in\n\n1720\n00:32:20,110 --> 00:32:20,120\nknow it can get better right at least in\n \n\n1721\n00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,110\nknow it can get better right at least in\nthe midterm and we can get further so I\n\n1722\n00:32:22,110 --> 00:32:22,120\nthe midterm and we can get further so I\n \n\n1723\n00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,669\nthe midterm and we can get further so I\nthink you know that's pretty cool and\n\n1724\n00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:23,679\nthink you know that's pretty cool and\n \n\n1725\n00:32:23,679 --> 00:32:25,350\nthink you know that's pretty cool and\nit's also pretty fun so like I'm I'm all\n\n1726\n00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:25,360\nit's also pretty fun so like I'm I'm all\n \n\n1727\n00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,389\nit's also pretty fun so like I'm I'm all\nfor that please please do more of that\n\n1728\n00:32:27,389 --> 00:32:27,399\nfor that please please do more of that\n \n\n1729\n00:32:27,399 --> 00:32:29,149\nfor that please please do more of that\nand\n\n1730\n00:32:29,149 --> 00:32:29,159\nand\n \n\n1731\n00:32:29,159 --> 00:32:31,830\nand\nto some extent it's sort of like you\n\n1732\n00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:31,840\nto some extent it's sort of like you\n \n\n1733\n00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,509\nto some extent it's sort of like you\nknow it feels like we live in these uh\n\n1734\n00:32:34,509 --> 00:32:34,519\nknow it feels like we live in these uh\n \n\n1735\n00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:37,110\nknow it feels like we live in these uh\nunbreakable regimes where like Unity you\n\n1736\n00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:37,120\nunbreakable regimes where like Unity you\n \n\n1737\n00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,789\nunbreakable regimes where like Unity you\nknow rules or where like the big\n\n1738\n00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:38,799\nknow rules or where like the big\n \n\n1739\n00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:40,190\nknow rules or where like the big\ncompanies Google and Microsoft and\n\n1740\n00:32:40,190 --> 00:32:40,200\ncompanies Google and Microsoft and\n \n\n1741\n00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,350\ncompanies Google and Microsoft and\neverybody rules but that's the kind of\n\n1742\n00:32:42,350 --> 00:32:42,360\neverybody rules but that's the kind of\n \n\n1743\n00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,110\neverybody rules but that's the kind of\nthing that's true until it isn't and\n\n1744\n00:32:44,110 --> 00:32:44,120\nthing that's true until it isn't and\n \n\n1745\n00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,549\nthing that's true until it isn't and\nthere's this lovely quote from Ursula\n\n1746\n00:32:45,549 --> 00:32:45,559\nthere's this lovely quote from Ursula\n \n\n1747\n00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:47,830\nthere's this lovely quote from Ursula\nlwin about capitalism which is sort of\n\n1748\n00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:47,840\nlwin about capitalism which is sort of\n \n\n1749\n00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,789\nlwin about capitalism which is sort of\nyou know the generalization of these\n\n1750\n00:32:49,789 --> 00:32:49,799\nyou know the generalization of these\n \n\n1751\n00:32:49,799 --> 00:32:53,110\nyou know the generalization of these\nproblems you know capitalism was itself\n\n1752\n00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:53,120\nproblems you know capitalism was itself\n \n\n1753\n00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,310\nproblems you know capitalism was itself\nan invention and um you know I'll just\n\n1754\n00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:56,320\nan invention and um you know I'll just\n \n\n1755\n00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,470\nan invention and um you know I'll just\nread it we live in capitalism M its\n\n1756\n00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:58,480\nread it we live in capitalism M its\n \n\n1757\n00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,110\nread it we live in capitalism M its\npower seems inescapable so did the\n\n1758\n00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:01,120\npower seems inescapable so did the\n \n\n1759\n00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,389\npower seems inescapable so did the\ndivine right of kings and any human\n\n1760\n00:33:03,389 --> 00:33:03,399\ndivine right of kings and any human\n \n\n1761\n00:33:03,399 --> 00:33:05,549\ndivine right of kings and any human\npower can be res resisted and changed by\n\n1762\n00:33:05,549 --> 00:33:05,559\npower can be res resisted and changed by\n \n\n1763\n00:33:05,559 --> 00:33:06,389\npower can be res resisted and changed by\nhuman\n\n1764\n00:33:06,389 --> 00:33:06,399\nhuman\n \n\n1765\n00:33:06,399 --> 00:33:11,070\nhuman\nbeings right so we we should not doubt\n\n1766\n00:33:11,070 --> 00:33:11,080\nbeings right so we we should not doubt\n \n\n1767\n00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,149\nbeings right so we we should not doubt\nthat the environment can be changed the\n\n1768\n00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:14,159\nthat the environment can be changed the\n \n\n1769\n00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:16,549\nthat the environment can be changed the\nenvironment was created it will be\n\n1770\n00:33:16,549 --> 00:33:16,559\nenvironment was created it will be\n \n\n1771\n00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:19,350\nenvironment was created it will be\nchanged we don't know how or when but it\n\n1772\n00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:19,360\nchanged we don't know how or when but it\n \n\n1773\n00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,470\nchanged we don't know how or when but it\nis\n\n1774\n00:33:20,470 --> 00:33:20,480\nis\n \n\n1775\n00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,430\nis\ninevitable okay so you can start over\n\n1776\n00:33:22,430 --> 00:33:22,440\ninevitable okay so you can start over\n \n\n1777\n00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,789\ninevitable okay so you can start over\nRevolution burn it\n\n1778\n00:33:24,789 --> 00:33:24,799\nRevolution burn it\n \n\n1779\n00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:28,549\nRevolution burn it\ndown or you know just do l\n\n1780\n00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:28,559\ndown or you know just do l\n \n\n1781\n00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,470\ndown or you know just do l\ndo less with less uh do I have my play\n\n1782\n00:33:31,470 --> 00:33:31,480\ndo less with less uh do I have my play\n \n\n1783\n00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,909\ndo less with less uh do I have my play\ndate does do people have these hases\n\n1784\n00:33:32,909 --> 00:33:32,919\ndate does do people have these hases\n \n\n1785\n00:33:32,919 --> 00:33:35,029\ndate does do people have these hases\nanybody got a play date yeah this is\n\n1786\n00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:35,039\nanybody got a play date yeah this is\n \n\n1787\n00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:37,629\nanybody got a play date yeah this is\ngreat it's black and white it it's\n\n1788\n00:33:37,629 --> 00:33:37,639\ngreat it's black and white it it's\n \n\n1789\n00:33:37,639 --> 00:33:40,430\ngreat it's black and white it it's\nthere's only one platform it's small it\n\n1790\n00:33:40,430 --> 00:33:40,440\nthere's only one platform it's small it\n \n\n1791\n00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,750\nthere's only one platform it's small it\ncomes in one color it only has one color\n\n1792\n00:33:42,750 --> 00:33:42,760\ncomes in one color it only has one color\n \n\n1793\n00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,310\ncomes in one color it only has one color\nblack or white depending on how you\n\n1794\n00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:44,320\nblack or white depending on how you\n \n\n1795\n00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,909\nblack or white depending on how you\nthink about it doesn't have a lot of\n\n1796\n00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:45,919\nthink about it doesn't have a lot of\n \n\n1797\n00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:48,470\nthink about it doesn't have a lot of\nbuttons doesn't have much RAM doesn't\n\n1798\n00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:48,480\nbuttons doesn't have much RAM doesn't\n \n\n1799\n00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,269\nbuttons doesn't have much RAM doesn't\nreally have any there's a little bit of\n\n1800\n00:33:50,269 --> 00:33:50,279\nreally have any there's a little bit of\n \n\n1801\n00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:52,389\nreally have any there's a little bit of\nnetworking and there's only one Hardware\n\n1802\n00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:52,399\nnetworking and there's only one Hardware\n \n\n1803\n00:33:52,399 --> 00:33:53,430\nnetworking and there's only one Hardware\nplatform so you don't have to worry\n\n1804\n00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:53,440\nplatform so you don't have to worry\n \n\n1805\n00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,590\nplatform so you don't have to worry\nabout compatibility\n\n1806\n00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:55,600\nabout compatibility\n \n\n1807\n00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,549\nabout compatibility\nproblems is\n\n1808\n00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:58,559\nproblems is\n \n\n1809\n00:33:58,559 --> 00:33:59,830\nproblems is\nthere there is the emulator which\n\n1810\n00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:59,840\nthere there is the emulator which\n \n\n1811\n00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,149\nthere there is the emulator which\nbehaves\n\n1812\n00:34:01,149 --> 00:34:01,159\nbehaves\n \n\n1813\n00:34:01,159 --> 00:34:03,269\nbehaves\ndifferently and due to like sourcing\n\n1814\n00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:03,279\ndifferently and due to like sourcing\n \n\n1815\n00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:05,310\ndifferently and due to like sourcing\nproblems they had to get a different\n\n1816\n00:34:05,310 --> 00:34:05,320\nproblems they had to get a different\n \n\n1817\n00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,310\nproblems they had to get a different\nmicro controller but it transpiles\n\n1818\n00:34:07,310 --> 00:34:07,320\nmicro controller but it transpiles\n \n\n1819\n00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,950\nmicro controller but it transpiles\nnatively they're doing a really good job\n\n1820\n00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:08,960\nnatively they're doing a really good job\n \n\n1821\n00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,470\nnatively they're doing a really good job\nanyway it's a heck of a lot simpler than\n\n1822\n00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:10,480\nanyway it's a heck of a lot simpler than\n \n\n1823\n00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:16,069\nanyway it's a heck of a lot simpler than\nbuilding for PS5 you know Xbox PC switch\n\n1824\n00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:16,079\nbuilding for PS5 you know Xbox PC switch\n \n\n1825\n00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:18,909\nbuilding for PS5 you know Xbox PC switch\n3DS all on one code base like it is\n\n1826\n00:34:18,909 --> 00:34:18,919\n3DS all on one code base like it is\n \n\n1827\n00:34:18,919 --> 00:34:20,829\n3DS all on one code base like it is\ngenuinely awesome and because it's so\n\n1828\n00:34:20,829 --> 00:34:20,839\ngenuinely awesome and because it's so\n \n\n1829\n00:34:20,839 --> 00:34:23,550\ngenuinely awesome and because it's so\nsmall it's like you know kind of\n\n1830\n00:34:23,550 --> 00:34:23,560\nsmall it's like you know kind of\n \n\n1831\n00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,589\nsmall it's like you know kind of\nappealing and when you have less scope\n\n1832\n00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:25,599\nappealing and when you have less scope\n \n\n1833\n00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:27,829\nappealing and when you have less scope\nyou can choose to spend that energy that\n\n1834\n00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:27,839\nyou can choose to spend that energy that\n \n\n1835\n00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:29,669\nyou can choose to spend that energy that\ncomplexity budget you can put it into\n\n1836\n00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:29,679\ncomplexity budget you can put it into\n \n\n1837\n00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,310\ncomplexity budget you can put it into\npolish right and like on a small\n\n1838\n00:34:32,310 --> 00:34:32,320\npolish right and like on a small\n \n\n1839\n00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,950\npolish right and like on a small\nplatform a small idea can\n\n1840\n00:34:35,950 --> 00:34:35,960\n\n \n\n1841\n00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,069\n\nshine so okay\n\n1842\n00:34:38,069 --> 00:34:38,079\nshine so okay\n \n\n1843\n00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:41,829\nshine so okay\nwell we can't solve complexity but we\n\n1844\n00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:41,839\nwell we can't solve complexity but we\n \n\n1845\n00:34:41,839 --> 00:34:46,190\nwell we can't solve complexity but we\ncan make things\n\n1846\n00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:46,200\n\n \n\n1847\n00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,950\n\nworse this is actually from augmenting\n\n1848\n00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:48,960\nworse this is actually from augmenting\n \n\n1849\n00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,869\nworse this is actually from augmenting\nHuman intellect uh by angelart in 1962\n\n1850\n00:34:51,869 --> 00:34:51,879\nHuman intellect uh by angelart in 1962\n \n\n1851\n00:34:51,879 --> 00:34:54,750\nHuman intellect uh by angelart in 1962\nand it's demonstrating um that you know\n\n1852\n00:34:54,750 --> 00:34:54,760\nand it's demonstrating um that you know\n \n\n1853\n00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,790\nand it's demonstrating um that you know\nyou can in fact change people's\n\n1854\n00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:56,800\nyou can in fact change people's\n \n\n1855\n00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,270\nyou can in fact change people's\nexperience um with uh design\n\n1856\n00:35:00,270 --> 00:35:00,280\nexperience um with uh design\n \n\n1857\n00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,550\nexperience um with uh design\ninterventions I said change not\n\n1858\n00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:03,560\ninterventions I said change not\n \n\n1859\n00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,550\ninterventions I said change not\nimprove so you you can we we've made\n\n1860\n00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:06,560\nimprove so you you can we we've made\n \n\n1861\n00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,270\nimprove so you you can we we've made\nthings pretty bad in terms of software\n\n1862\n00:35:08,270 --> 00:35:08,280\nthings pretty bad in terms of software\n \n\n1863\n00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,510\nthings pretty bad in terms of software\ndevelopment this is the uh my favorite\n\n1864\n00:35:10,510 --> 00:35:10,520\ndevelopment this is the uh my favorite\n \n\n1865\n00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,630\ndevelopment this is the uh my favorite\nslide always to show this is the uh\n\n1866\n00:35:12,630 --> 00:35:12,640\nslide always to show this is the uh\n \n\n1867\n00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,150\nslide always to show this is the uh\nCloud native cloud\n\n1868\n00:35:15,150 --> 00:35:15,160\nCloud native cloud\n \n\n1869\n00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,310\nCloud native cloud\ncloud Foundation Cloud native landscape\n\n1870\n00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:18,320\ncloud Foundation Cloud native landscape\n \n\n1871\n00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,230\ncloud Foundation Cloud native landscape\nI always get this wrong um this is\n\n1872\n00:35:21,230 --> 00:35:21,240\nI always get this wrong um this is\n \n\n1873\n00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:24,829\nI always get this wrong um this is\nostensibly I think 20 trillion worth of\n\n1874\n00:35:24,829 --> 00:35:24,839\nostensibly I think 20 trillion worth of\n \n\n1875\n00:35:24,839 --> 00:35:27,109\nostensibly I think 20 trillion worth of\ncompanies anyway please memorize all of\n\n1876\n00:35:27,109 --> 00:35:27,119\ncompanies anyway please memorize all of\n \n\n1877\n00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:28,430\ncompanies anyway please memorize all of\nthis it'll be quiz at the end if you\n\n1878\n00:35:28,430 --> 00:35:28,440\nthis it'll be quiz at the end if you\n \n\n1879\n00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,230\nthis it'll be quiz at the end if you\nwant to make a web application in\n\n1880\n00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:32,240\n\n \n\n1881\n00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,510\n\n2022 I had to zoom out the browser just\n\n1882\n00:35:34,510 --> 00:35:34,520\n2022 I had to zoom out the browser just\n \n\n1883\n00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,349\n2022 I had to zoom out the browser just\nto fit it all on screen for the\n\n1884\n00:35:36,349 --> 00:35:36,359\nto fit it all on screen for the\n \n\n1885\n00:35:36,359 --> 00:35:38,670\nto fit it all on screen for the\nfun so I'm going to talk a little bit\n\n1886\n00:35:38,670 --> 00:35:38,680\nfun so I'm going to talk a little bit\n \n\n1887\n00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,030\nfun so I'm going to talk a little bit\nnow about our research which kind of\n\n1888\n00:35:40,030 --> 00:35:40,040\nnow about our research which kind of\n \n\n1889\n00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,870\nnow about our research which kind of\nties back into this because I think it\n\n1890\n00:35:41,870 --> 00:35:41,880\nties back into this because I think it\n \n\n1891\n00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,630\nties back into this because I think it\nmight be interesting um our approach is\n\n1892\n00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:44,640\nmight be interesting um our approach is\n \n\n1893\n00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,270\nmight be interesting um our approach is\nless the kind of like reboot uh uh model\n\n1894\n00:35:48,270 --> 00:35:48,280\nless the kind of like reboot uh uh model\n \n\n1895\n00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,990\nless the kind of like reboot uh uh model\nand more of the maybe do a little less\n\n1896\n00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:50,000\nand more of the maybe do a little less\n \n\n1897\n00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,790\nand more of the maybe do a little less\nwith less model and one of our sort of\n\n1898\n00:35:53,790 --> 00:35:53,800\nwith less model and one of our sort of\n \n\n1899\n00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,990\nwith less model and one of our sort of\nresearch interests kind of Builds on\n\n1900\n00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:57,000\nresearch interests kind of Builds on\n \n\n1901\n00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,750\nresearch interests kind of Builds on\nthese sort of tools tools for thought a\n\n1902\n00:35:58,750 --> 00:35:58,760\nthese sort of tools tools for thought a\n \n\n1903\n00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,309\nthese sort of tools tools for thought a\nbig part of um what we're interested in\n\n1904\n00:36:02,309 --> 00:36:02,319\nbig part of um what we're interested in\n \n\n1905\n00:36:02,319 --> 00:36:04,109\nbig part of um what we're interested in\nas a research group is not Simplicity\n\n1906\n00:36:04,109 --> 00:36:04,119\nas a research group is not Simplicity\n \n\n1907\n00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:06,390\nas a research group is not Simplicity\nversus complexity or decentralization or\n\n1908\n00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:06,400\nversus complexity or decentralization or\n \n\n1909\n00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,829\nversus complexity or decentralization or\nanything like that but we do find that\n\n1910\n00:36:08,829 --> 00:36:08,839\nanything like that but we do find that\n \n\n1911\n00:36:08,839 --> 00:36:10,870\nanything like that but we do find that\nwe have to work in that space because\n\n1912\n00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:10,880\nwe have to work in that space because\n \n\n1913\n00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,829\nwe have to work in that space because\nwhat we want are tools that we have\n\n1914\n00:36:12,829 --> 00:36:12,839\nwhat we want are tools that we have\n \n\n1915\n00:36:12,839 --> 00:36:15,030\nwhat we want are tools that we have\nagency over that we have ownership of\n\n1916\n00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:15,040\nagency over that we have ownership of\n \n\n1917\n00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,470\nagency over that we have ownership of\nthat are ours and can't be taken and so\n\n1918\n00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:18,480\nthat are ours and can't be taken and so\n \n\n1919\n00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,829\nthat are ours and can't be taken and so\nwe call our research there uh local\n\n1920\n00:36:20,829 --> 00:36:20,839\nwe call our research there uh local\n \n\n1921\n00:36:20,839 --> 00:36:24,109\nwe call our research there uh local\nfirst software and the idea is basically\n\n1922\n00:36:24,109 --> 00:36:24,119\nfirst software and the idea is basically\n \n\n1923\n00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:25,710\nfirst software and the idea is basically\nthat instead of having to go learn that\n\n1924\n00:36:25,710 --> 00:36:25,720\nthat instead of having to go learn that\n \n\n1925\n00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:28,510\nthat instead of having to go learn that\nwhole chart of Technology\n\n1926\n00:36:28,510 --> 00:36:28,520\nwhole chart of Technology\n \n\n1927\n00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,030\nwhole chart of Technology\nthat you know you can't actually do any\n\n1928\n00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:31,040\nthat you know you can't actually do any\n \n\n1929\n00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,069\nthat you know you can't actually do any\nof that stuff if you just run it on your\n\n1930\n00:36:33,069 --> 00:36:33,079\nof that stuff if you just run it on your\n \n\n1931\n00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:34,510\nof that stuff if you just run it on your\ncomputer cuz that stuff's all in the\n\n1932\n00:36:34,510 --> 00:36:34,520\ncomputer cuz that stuff's all in the\n \n\n1933\n00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,550\ncomputer cuz that stuff's all in the\ncloud so if you want to build software\n\n1934\n00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:36,560\ncloud so if you want to build software\n \n\n1935\n00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,910\ncloud so if you want to build software\nthat works on your\n\n1936\n00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:37,920\nthat works on your\n \n\n1937\n00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,790\nthat works on your\ncomputer not only do you not get to use\n\n1938\n00:36:41,790 --> 00:36:41,800\ncomputer not only do you not get to use\n \n\n1939\n00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,790\ncomputer not only do you not get to use\nall that stuff you don't have to use all\n\n1940\n00:36:44,790 --> 00:36:44,800\nall that stuff you don't have to use all\n \n\n1941\n00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,710\nall that stuff you don't have to use all\nthat\n\n1942\n00:36:45,710 --> 00:36:45,720\nthat\n \n\n1943\n00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:48,589\nthat\nstuff and so this you know it's sort of\n\n1944\n00:36:48,589 --> 00:36:48,599\nstuff and so this you know it's sort of\n \n\n1945\n00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:52,069\nstuff and so this you know it's sort of\nlike simplification like via\n\n1946\n00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:52,079\nlike simplification like via\n \n\n1947\n00:36:52,079 --> 00:36:54,950\nlike simplification like via\namputation so we just cut off most of\n\n1948\n00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:54,960\namputation so we just cut off most of\n \n\n1949\n00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,950\namputation so we just cut off most of\nthe cloud and then we build things Lo\n\n1950\n00:36:57,950 --> 00:36:57,960\nthe cloud and then we build things Lo\n \n\n1951\n00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,030\nthe cloud and then we build things Lo\nand so you know we've dabbled in a bunch\n\n1952\n00:37:00,030 --> 00:37:00,040\nand so you know we've dabbled in a bunch\n \n\n1953\n00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,190\nand so you know we've dabbled in a bunch\nof different platforms over the years um\n\n1954\n00:37:02,190 --> 00:37:02,200\nof different platforms over the years um\n \n\n1955\n00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:03,870\nof different platforms over the years um\nright now we're building things in the\n\n1956\n00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:03,880\nright now we're building things in the\n \n\n1957\n00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,710\nright now we're building things in the\nbrowser but storing everything in like\n\n1958\n00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:06,720\nbrowser but storing everything in like\n \n\n1959\n00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,990\nbrowser but storing everything in like\nindexdb but one of our kind of core\n\n1960\n00:37:08,990 --> 00:37:09,000\nindexdb but one of our kind of core\n \n\n1961\n00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,230\nindexdb but one of our kind of core\nbeliefs is that um you know\n\n1962\n00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:12,240\nbeliefs is that um you know\n \n\n1963\n00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:14,950\nbeliefs is that um you know\ncollaboration is such an important part\n\n1964\n00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:14,960\ncollaboration is such an important part\n \n\n1965\n00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,150\ncollaboration is such an important part\nof um thinking and making and doing that\n\n1966\n00:37:19,150 --> 00:37:19,160\nof um thinking and making and doing that\n \n\n1967\n00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,710\nof um thinking and making and doing that\nit should be like a really fundamental\n\n1968\n00:37:20,710 --> 00:37:20,720\nit should be like a really fundamental\n \n\n1969\n00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,589\nit should be like a really fundamental\npart of our platforms and so we've been\n\n1970\n00:37:23,589 --> 00:37:23,599\npart of our platforms and so we've been\n \n\n1971\n00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:25,630\npart of our platforms and so we've been\nexploring technology that allows you to\n\n1972\n00:37:25,630 --> 00:37:25,640\nexploring technology that allows you to\n \n\n1973\n00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,030\nexploring technology that allows you to\nbuild software that runs on your\n\n1974\n00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:27,040\nbuild software that runs on your\n \n\n1975\n00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,150\nbuild software that runs on your\ncomputer\n\n1976\n00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:28,160\ncomputer\n \n\n1977\n00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,349\ncomputer\nbut then collaborates with other people\n\n1978\n00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:30,359\nbut then collaborates with other people\n \n\n1979\n00:37:30,359 --> 00:37:32,309\nbut then collaborates with other people\nyou know even allowing online offline\n\n1980\n00:37:32,309 --> 00:37:32,319\nyou know even allowing online offline\n \n\n1981\n00:37:32,319 --> 00:37:36,589\nyou know even allowing online offline\nkind of cuts and um the the model\n\n1982\n00:37:36,589 --> 00:37:36,599\nkind of cuts and um the the model\n \n\n1983\n00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:38,910\nkind of cuts and um the the model\nunderpinning that is a a data structure\n\n1984\n00:37:38,910 --> 00:37:38,920\nunderpinning that is a a data structure\n \n\n1985\n00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,950\nunderpinning that is a a data structure\ncalled automerge it's sort of like a\n\n1986\n00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:40,960\ncalled automerge it's sort of like a\n \n\n1987\n00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,109\ncalled automerge it's sort of like a\nportable versioned Json like data\n\n1988\n00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:43,119\nportable versioned Json like data\n \n\n1989\n00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:44,870\nportable versioned Json like data\nstructure you could think of it as like\n\n1990\n00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:44,880\nstructure you could think of it as like\n \n\n1991\n00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,430\nstructure you could think of it as like\nget for your data um I I don't I'm happy\n\n1992\n00:37:48,430 --> 00:37:48,440\nget for your data um I I don't I'm happy\n \n\n1993\n00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,230\nget for your data um I I don't I'm happy\nto talk at length about this stuff uh\n\n1994\n00:37:51,230 --> 00:37:51,240\nto talk at length about this stuff uh\n \n\n1995\n00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:53,510\nto talk at length about this stuff uh\nbut I don't really want to Harang you\n\n1996\n00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:53,520\nbut I don't really want to Harang you\n \n\n1997\n00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,550\nbut I don't really want to Harang you\ntoo much on you know sort of our\n\n1998\n00:37:55,550 --> 00:37:55,560\ntoo much on you know sort of our\n \n\n1999\n00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,829\ntoo much on you know sort of our\nparticular kind of like development\n\n2000\n00:37:56,829 --> 00:37:56,839\nparticular kind of like development\n \n\n2001\n00:37:56,839 --> 00:38:00,270\nparticular kind of like development\ninterests but uh it's really incredible\n\n2002\n00:38:00,270 --> 00:38:00,280\ninterests but uh it's really incredible\n \n\n2003\n00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,430\ninterests but uh it's really incredible\njust like how it feels to build software\n\n2004\n00:38:04,430 --> 00:38:04,440\njust like how it feels to build software\n \n\n2005\n00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,870\njust like how it feels to build software\nthat's fast and simple and runs on your\n\n2006\n00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:06,880\nthat's fast and simple and runs on your\n \n\n2007\n00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,630\nthat's fast and simple and runs on your\ncomputer if you like me have spent the\n\n2008\n00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:09,640\ncomputer if you like me have spent the\n \n\n2009\n00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,270\ncomputer if you like me have spent the\nlast you know chunk of your career\n\n2010\n00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:11,280\nlast you know chunk of your career\n \n\n2011\n00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,270\nlast you know chunk of your career\nbuilding cloud services and and you know\n\n2012\n00:38:14,270 --> 00:38:14,280\nbuilding cloud services and and you know\n \n\n2013\n00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,910\nbuilding cloud services and and you know\nrunning things in the sky I had this\n\n2014\n00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:16,920\nrunning things in the sky I had this\n \n\n2015\n00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,990\nrunning things in the sky I had this\nlike really memorable outage where\n\n2016\n00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:20,000\nlike really memorable outage where\n \n\n2017\n00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,910\nlike really memorable outage where\nAmazon turned off Us East one dirty\n\n2018\n00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:22,920\nAmazon turned off Us East one dirty\n \n\n2019\n00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,430\nAmazon turned off Us East one dirty\nbecause the generators didn't come on in\n\n2020\n00:38:24,430 --> 00:38:24,440\nbecause the generators didn't come on in\n \n\n2021\n00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,190\nbecause the generators didn't come on in\na hurricane and you know we were sort of\n\n2022\n00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:27,200\na hurricane and you know we were sort of\n \n\n2023\n00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,950\na hurricane and you know we were sort of\nlike 3 days into some God forsaken like\n\n2024\n00:38:30,950 --> 00:38:30,960\nlike 3 days into some God forsaken like\n \n\n2025\n00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,950\nlike 3 days into some God forsaken like\nsystem rebuild from backups of\n\n2026\n00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:32,960\nsystem rebuild from backups of\n \n\n2027\n00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,550\nsystem rebuild from backups of\neverybody's databases and my cooworker\n\n2028\n00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:34,560\neverybody's databases and my cooworker\n \n\n2029\n00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,109\neverybody's databases and my cooworker\nturns to me and he\n\n2030\n00:38:36,109 --> 00:38:36,119\nturns to me and he\n \n\n2031\n00:38:36,119 --> 00:38:40,430\nturns to me and he\ngoes I'm fixing computers that don't\n\n2032\n00:38:40,430 --> 00:38:40,440\ngoes I'm fixing computers that don't\n \n\n2033\n00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,630\ngoes I'm fixing computers that don't\nexist in a data center I've never been\n\n2034\n00:38:43,630 --> 00:38:43,640\nexist in a data center I've never been\n \n\n2035\n00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,990\nexist in a data center I've never been\nto for people I've never\n\n2036\n00:38:48,990 --> 00:38:49,000\n\n \n\n2037\n00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,230\n\nmet and he just had the like thousand\n\n2038\n00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:51,240\nmet and he just had the like thousand\n \n\n2039\n00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:53,470\nmet and he just had the like thousand\nyards stareing his eyes and I was like\n\n2040\n00:38:53,470 --> 00:38:53,480\nyards stareing his eyes and I was like\n \n\n2041\n00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,309\nyards stareing his eyes and I was like\nyeah do you need some more coffee\n\n2042\n00:38:56,309 --> 00:38:56,319\nyeah do you need some more coffee\n \n\n2043\n00:38:56,319 --> 00:38:59,190\nyeah do you need some more coffee\nyeah but and so you know like in a sense\n\n2044\n00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:59,200\nyeah but and so you know like in a sense\n \n\n2045\n00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:00,470\nyeah but and so you know like in a sense\nworking on this stuff is almost like\n\n2046\n00:39:00,470 --> 00:39:00,480\nworking on this stuff is almost like\n \n\n2047\n00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:01,950\nworking on this stuff is almost like\nPenance for me because I created all\n\n2048\n00:39:01,950 --> 00:39:01,960\nPenance for me because I created all\n \n\n2049\n00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,309\nPenance for me because I created all\nthese single points of\n\n2050\n00:39:05,309 --> 00:39:05,319\n\n \n\n2051\n00:39:05,319 --> 00:39:08,950\n\nfailure anyway so let's recap a little\n\n2052\n00:39:08,950 --> 00:39:08,960\nfailure anyway so let's recap a little\n \n\n2053\n00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,589\nfailure anyway so let's recap a little\nbit of all of this how do we live our\n\n2054\n00:39:10,589 --> 00:39:10,599\nbit of all of this how do we live our\n \n\n2055\n00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:14,829\nbit of all of this how do we live our\nlives in this complicated world right so\n\n2056\n00:39:14,829 --> 00:39:14,839\nlives in this complicated world right so\n \n\n2057\n00:39:14,839 --> 00:39:18,550\nlives in this complicated world right so\ncomplexity occurs when our systems have\n\n2058\n00:39:18,550 --> 00:39:18,560\ncomplexity occurs when our systems have\n \n\n2059\n00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,950\ncomplexity occurs when our systems have\ninternal\n\n2060\n00:39:19,950 --> 00:39:19,960\ninternal\n \n\n2061\n00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,030\ninternal\ninteractions right complexity doesn't\n\n2062\n00:39:22,030 --> 00:39:22,040\ninteractions right complexity doesn't\n \n\n2063\n00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,470\ninteractions right complexity doesn't\nmean oh there's a lot of stuff it's when\n\n2064\n00:39:24,470 --> 00:39:24,480\nmean oh there's a lot of stuff it's when\n \n\n2065\n00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,349\nmean oh there's a lot of stuff it's when\nall that stuff starts to bump against\n\n2066\n00:39:26,349 --> 00:39:26,359\nall that stuff starts to bump against\n \n\n2067\n00:39:26,359 --> 00:39:27,910\nall that stuff starts to bump against\neach other and cause unpredictable\n\n2068\n00:39:27,910 --> 00:39:27,920\neach other and cause unpredictable\n \n\n2069\n00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,910\neach other and cause unpredictable\noutcomes and complexity is also a\n\n2070\n00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:31,920\noutcomes and complexity is also a\n \n\n2071\n00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,470\noutcomes and complexity is also a\nnatural consequence of system incentives\n\n2072\n00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:34,480\nnatural consequence of system incentives\n \n\n2073\n00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,150\nnatural consequence of system incentives\nif you have a lot of people using a\n\n2074\n00:39:36,150 --> 00:39:36,160\nif you have a lot of people using a\n \n\n2075\n00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,670\nif you have a lot of people using a\nthing and you're listening to what they\n\n2076\n00:39:37,670 --> 00:39:37,680\nthing and you're listening to what they\n \n\n2077\n00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,309\nthing and you're listening to what they\nneed and you're you know like evolving\n\n2078\n00:39:40,309 --> 00:39:40,319\nneed and you're you know like evolving\n \n\n2079\n00:39:40,319 --> 00:39:42,470\nneed and you're you know like evolving\nas you learn more you're going to end up\n\n2080\n00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:42,480\nas you learn more you're going to end up\n \n\n2081\n00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,670\nas you learn more you're going to end up\nwith something\n\n2082\n00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:43,680\nwith something\n \n\n2083\n00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,349\nwith something\ncomplex and better tools won't change\n\n2084\n00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:47,359\ncomplex and better tools won't change\n \n\n2085\n00:39:47,359 --> 00:39:49,630\ncomplex and better tools won't change\nthis right the complexity is a\n\n2086\n00:39:49,630 --> 00:39:49,640\nthis right the complexity is a\n \n\n2087\n00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,910\nthis right the complexity is a\nconsequence of who we are and the\n\n2088\n00:39:50,910 --> 00:39:50,920\nconsequence of who we are and the\n \n\n2089\n00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,069\nconsequence of who we are and the\nchoices we make sure you can you can\n\n2090\n00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:54,079\nchoices we make sure you can you can\n \n\n2091\n00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:55,710\nchoices we make sure you can you can\nburn through your budget faster but like\n\n2092\n00:39:55,710 --> 00:39:55,720\nburn through your budget faster but like\n \n\n2093\n00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:57,550\nburn through your budget faster but like\nultimately where your project ends up on\n\n2094\n00:39:57,550 --> 00:39:57,560\nultimately where your project ends up on\n \n\n2095\n00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,230\nultimately where your project ends up on\nthe complexity scale is more about how\n\n2096\n00:39:59,230 --> 00:39:59,240\nthe complexity scale is more about how\n \n\n2097\n00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:00,829\nthe complexity scale is more about how\nmuch time and how many ideas are\n\n2098\n00:40:00,829 --> 00:40:00,839\nmuch time and how many ideas are\n \n\n2099\n00:40:00,839 --> 00:40:03,589\nmuch time and how many ideas are\ninvested into it than anything\n\n2100\n00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:03,599\ninvested into it than anything\n \n\n2101\n00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:06,470\ninvested into it than anything\nelse so we can't beat complexity but we\n\n2102\n00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:06,480\nelse so we can't beat complexity but we\n \n\n2103\n00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,670\nelse so we can't beat complexity but we\ncan get beaten by it right and so you\n\n2104\n00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:09,680\ncan get beaten by it right and so you\n \n\n2105\n00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,150\ncan get beaten by it right and so you\nknow what are our coping strategies well\n\n2106\n00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:11,160\nknow what are our coping strategies well\n \n\n2107\n00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,470\nknow what are our coping strategies well\nwe can start over we can eradicate\n\n2108\n00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:14,480\nwe can start over we can eradicate\n \n\n2109\n00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,270\nwe can start over we can eradicate\ndependencies we can cut scope do less\n\n2110\n00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:17,280\ndependencies we can cut scope do less\n \n\n2111\n00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,349\ndependencies we can cut scope do less\nright we can simplify our architecture\n\n2112\n00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:19,359\nright we can simplify our architecture\n \n\n2113\n00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:21,190\nright we can simplify our architecture\nand a really big one is being conscious\n\n2114\n00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:21,200\nand a really big one is being conscious\n \n\n2115\n00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,670\nand a really big one is being conscious\nof and learning to kind of identify when\n\n2116\n00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:23,680\nof and learning to kind of identify when\n \n\n2117\n00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,710\nof and learning to kind of identify when\nyou're getting into these like\n\n2118\n00:40:25,710 --> 00:40:25,720\nyou're getting into these like\n \n\n2119\n00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:28,190\nyou're getting into these like\nmultiplicator environments\n\n2120\n00:40:28,190 --> 00:40:28,200\nmultiplicator environments\n \n\n2121\n00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,710\nmultiplicator environments\nright like it once you start porting\n\n2122\n00:40:29,710 --> 00:40:29,720\nright like it once you start porting\n \n\n2123\n00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:31,309\nright like it once you start porting\nthings to multiple platforms and having\n\n2124\n00:40:31,309 --> 00:40:31,319\nthings to multiple platforms and having\n \n\n2125\n00:40:31,319 --> 00:40:33,030\nthings to multiple platforms and having\nto build those like per platform\n\n2126\n00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:33,040\nto build those like per platform\n \n\n2127\n00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,390\nto build those like per platform\nabstractions how do you manage that\n\n2128\n00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:34,400\nabstractions how do you manage that\n \n\n2129\n00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,990\nabstractions how do you manage that\ncomplexity back down how do you isolate\n\n2130\n00:40:36,990 --> 00:40:37,000\ncomplexity back down how do you isolate\n \n\n2131\n00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,910\ncomplexity back down how do you isolate\ncomplexity and a big part of success is\n\n2132\n00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:39,920\ncomplexity and a big part of success is\n \n\n2133\n00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,150\ncomplexity and a big part of success is\nisolating\n\n2134\n00:40:41,150 --> 00:40:41,160\nisolating\n \n\n2135\n00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,270\nisolating\ncomplexity but I also want to you know\n\n2136\n00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:43,280\ncomplexity but I also want to you know\n \n\n2137\n00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,750\ncomplexity but I also want to you know\ngive a shout out to gazing into the\n\n2138\n00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:45,760\ngive a shout out to gazing into the\n \n\n2139\n00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,910\ngive a shout out to gazing into the\nabyss and you know you can you can uh go\n\n2140\n00:40:48,910 --> 00:40:48,920\nabyss and you know you can you can uh go\n \n\n2141\n00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,109\nabyss and you know you can you can uh go\ngo for it right like Embrace complexity\n\n2142\n00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:51,119\ngo for it right like Embrace complexity\n \n\n2143\n00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:53,069\ngo for it right like Embrace complexity\nharness it yeah it's a deal with with an\n\n2144\n00:40:53,069 --> 00:40:53,079\nharness it yeah it's a deal with with an\n \n\n2145\n00:40:53,079 --> 00:40:55,190\nharness it yeah it's a deal with with an\nelder god and you may accomplish great\n\n2146\n00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:55,200\nelder god and you may accomplish great\n \n\n2147\n00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,829\nelder god and you may accomplish great\nand terrible things but at a great and\n\n2148\n00:40:56,829 --> 00:40:56,839\nand terrible things but at a great and\n \n\n2149\n00:40:56,839 --> 00:40:59,390\nand terrible things but at a great and\nterrible price you know that's fine but\n\n2150\n00:40:59,390 --> 00:40:59,400\nterrible price you know that's fine but\n \n\n2151\n00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,829\nterrible price you know that's fine but\nyou when you do this you got to be real\n\n2152\n00:41:01,829 --> 00:41:01,839\nyou when you do this you got to be real\n \n\n2153\n00:41:01,839 --> 00:41:04,550\nyou when you do this you got to be real\ncareful right and and you want to be\n\n2154\n00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:04,560\ncareful right and and you want to be\n \n\n2155\n00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,670\ncareful right and and you want to be\nreally deliberate but deliberate about\n\n2156\n00:41:06,670 --> 00:41:06,680\nreally deliberate but deliberate about\n \n\n2157\n00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,670\nreally deliberate but deliberate about\nhow and when you uh take on that\n\n2158\n00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:09,680\nhow and when you uh take on that\n \n\n2159\n00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,390\nhow and when you uh take on that\ncomplexity so I guess in in closing we\n\n2160\n00:41:12,390 --> 00:41:12,400\ncomplexity so I guess in in closing we\n \n\n2161\n00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,150\ncomplexity so I guess in in closing we\ncan't solve complexity but we can build\n\n2162\n00:41:15,150 --> 00:41:15,160\ncan't solve complexity but we can build\n \n\n2163\n00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,950\ncan't solve complexity but we can build\nbetter software uh or to put it in the\n\n2164\n00:41:17,950 --> 00:41:17,960\nbetter software uh or to put it in the\n \n\n2165\n00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,950\nbetter software uh or to put it in the\nthe words of cyclist Greg lemand it\n\n2166\n00:41:19,950 --> 00:41:19,960\nthe words of cyclist Greg lemand it\n 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